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TX_Angel
12.14.2015 , 12:28 AM | #711
Quote: Originally Posted by Deyjarl View Post
Care to support that claim?
If they permabaned 500+ accounts, then reasonable logic would indicate that thousands and thousands of accounts got a temp ban.

Or are you suggesting that more people were permabanned than temp banned?
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TX_Angel
12.14.2015 , 12:29 AM | #712
Quote: Originally Posted by Deyjarl View Post
Guess Singapore isn't the real world. Some of the Lowest rates in the world. Harsh punishment.
Correlation is not causation...
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TX_Angel
12.14.2015 , 12:32 AM | #713
Quote: Originally Posted by JourrnoRush View Post
More than 500 were permabanned, okay. It does not state "thousands and thousands got temp bans" you should learn to not just make stuff up to make whatever you are advocating to be important. This isn't Fox News.
I'm sure you think you're funny, in your own way. Sad that basic logic is lost on you. It doesn't have to state it, it is simple logic. A reasonable person can see it, but not everyone is reasonable.

Quote: Originally Posted by JourrnoRush View Post
I'm sorry that you got caught and that your millions or billions got taken away. I hope you learned your lesson.
So now who is making the unfounded accusations? Care to back up that claim? I'm still posting and never claimed to lose anything. In fact, I didn't because I didn't exploit, I was wealthy long before 4.0 dropped.

I'm simply trying to point out the completely flawed reasoning among the "burn them at the stake" people here, I hoped that went out in the middle ages, but sadly it didn't.
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Sluggard
12.14.2015 , 01:19 AM | #714
"We are working to ensure that the action we take against player is fair, but makes it clear that use of exploits will not be tolerated. "

When are you people going to get just as sanctimonious about all the gold spammers?

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Kheeleb
12.14.2015 , 02:52 AM | #715
Quote: Originally Posted by tattoohero View Post
I don't. Don't exploit. Plain and simple.

Losing everything is just punishment. They should be glad they're not perma banned.
The difference between losing everything and perma ban isn't that big. If all my chars would have been stripped off all currencies and other things I had long before, then I wouldn't bother starting from scratch. I'd just drop my sub and move on.

BW is punishing the players for their own laziness.

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Ghisallo
12.14.2015 , 02:55 AM | #716
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
Correlation is not causation...
True but there are plenty of studies that show that authoritarian governments rule Nations with less crime. As much as Singapore would like people to think "hey we look like the west so we are a free democracy!!!"

Well not really. They have been ruled by the same party since 1959 and critics of the government, including cartoonists have been arrested, tried and convicted of sedition. There have been more than a few studies that show that yes, their draconian laws are in large part responsible. Some have even called it a "Faustian deal" in that for security the people accept a loss of civil liberty

I know you are stretching for logical reasons to justify your stance but you really have yet to find one that is either not a veiled apologetic in nature or ignoring a simple fact. Any video game run by a corporation is, for its players, an authoritarian state. In the end they can do what they want, punish who and how they want. Ultimately in a situation like this all a player can do is "emigrate" as we are essentially unarmed. The "State" is not going to back down or roll back penalties nor will it apologize because to do so would be seen as a sign of weakness and simply embolden future exploiting.
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Deyjarl
12.14.2015 , 05:55 AM | #717
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
If they permabaned 500+ accounts, then reasonable logic would indicate that thousands and thousands of accounts got a temp ban.

Or are you suggesting that more people were permabanned than temp banned?
No it isn't reasonable. Your words thousands and thousands. You have not one shred of evidence to support that. Quit trying to claim your opinion as fact. It is ridiculous and childish.
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Deyjarl
12.14.2015 , 05:57 AM | #718
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
Correlation is not causation...
It was one example. #facepalm. You just love to throw things around to make yourself seem so much more, but really just a scared small person trying to make yourself seem big.
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Makillda
12.14.2015 , 08:38 AM | #719
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
If that makes you feel better, then by all means, say it and believe it.

People are interesting, they can be presented with piles and piles of evidence, and simply decide not to believe it because they don't "want to". You don't "want to", so you don't. Nothing will change your mind, regardless of the "proof", you'll just deny it anyway.

Have a nice day.
You have definitely provided piles and piles of something but it is not proof of anything other than ******** stinks.

There is no proof of anything you have claimed as far as people asking for bans for people who bought stacks on the gtn. Prove that wrong.
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prairieprof
12.14.2015 , 08:52 AM | #720
I just wish there were more resources put into the development of more content for elder game guilds such as raiding and pvp guilds. Whenever there is an exploit or bug in favor of the player I see a very swift, deliberate action taken by BW to completely resolve it. But when the bug causes players to have a more difficult time in their progression I see BW either never responds or takes seemingly years to respond and then doesn't completely resolve the issue in some cases. I'm sick about the statement that it's not guaranteed for a Nightmare op to drop any nightmare gear at all. I'm sick about the decision to not provide raiding guilds a single new operation in the game and pvp guilds a single new pvp playing field in KOTFE. I'm sick about why in the full history of this game the Explosive Conflict on Denova has never been improved to drop more credits during the operation; this, an operation that has been in the game since the beginning with the same problem for four years. Could we please have something interesting, fun and rewarding now? Please? Focus that same effort and resolve you have with fixing exploits into developing a better end game. We love Star Wars. We would play it forever. We just want something new and exciting so we can enjoy it. Thank you!