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DarkLadyKeres
12.08.2015 , 08:02 PM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by ryoutou View Post
You just wanted to tell us you were a QA guy

It was was a manager who didn't prioritize it. I worked in the field long enough to reckon my read is as good as anyone elses here, certainly including yours.

A little sad at how soup sandwich it is these last few weeks - but outraged? I'm retired, mostly. Thats fun

The whole thing is funny in a Catch-22 sort of way.
An exploit like that, its unlikely this wasnt bumped up... a lot...

Ive worked in the field long enough too but I also know that six weeks isnt that long to get a fix in that works... also people dont get that the patches for at least the NEXT two weeks are set in stone and are just being tested with fixes going in only for major (Like 100% crash) bugs so in reality this was probably fixed MORE than two weeks ago but not pushed to the live branch yet...

Again im gonna stand with the Devs on this one because they know a lot more about how games work than the 17 pages of "PRESS THE FIX NOW BUTTON SOONER" in this thread...
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12.08.2015 , 08:03 PM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
Nevermind it being our coding teams incompetence.
Id like to know what you know of coding games?

How about game release? (including patches)

can you write a bug even?
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12.08.2015 , 08:12 PM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkLadyKeres View Post
Id like to know what you know of coding games?

How about game release? (including patches)

can you write a bug even?
I'd like you to know how much I care about what you think and how much I'd like to talk trash with you as some kind of developer surrogate but I'm busy talking trash with someone else in a different game and I'm afraid you're at the bottom of a priority list after that which includes scratching my *** and sleeping.
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12.08.2015 , 08:17 PM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
I'd like you to know how much I care about what you think and how much I'd like to talk trash with you as some kind of developer surrogate but I'm busy talking trash with someone else in a different game and I'm afraid you're at the bottom of a priority list after that which includes scratching my *** and sleeping.
Nah im just tired of people acting like they know ****, can point out incompetence, can point out how things should have been done in 5 minutes and yet have absolutely no knowledge of what they are talking about... but no, keep going... Maybe you can point out how much you know of Quantum Physics next and then give **** to actual physicists for not having invented time travel yet...
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12.08.2015 , 08:27 PM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by jsibz View Post
We just don't agree but I see what you are saying. My opinion is that there is a correlation between the outrage of the player base and the punishment shown. I think that those exploiting should be perma banned and I'm glad that Bioware has stated that as an option for those offenders. What you consider poisonous others may consider fair.
We don't have to agree, and we can still co-exist without the need to flame each other or fight over it. I'm totally okay with that.

I actually do agree that outrage is what leads them to do anything about exploits and is potentially part of the reason it was fixed now rather than weeks ago when it was discovered. Putting their feet to the flames and forcing them to act comes from making these things public. When it's made public they HAVE do something about it and then post and give punishments. That's all well and good, making something public like this and forcing them to act is a good thing for the game overall, it's just HOW people post about it that I take issues with.

At the end of the day, we're all players in this community and should do our best to be swift, fair, and equitable without bashing each other or ramping up the crazy on the forums whenever we can.
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12.08.2015 , 08:28 PM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkLadyKeres View Post
And you cant tell me you dont think there was a reason for it taking this long. They tried things, it didnt work, it bounced back and forth because SOMEHOW it broke the entire GTN or made people lose items... something like that... but please dont join the "HIT THE FIX BUTTON NAO" crowd... you know it doesnt work that way.
If this were one instance then maybe I could give BioWare the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately EVERY exploit that we've seen post 3.0 has taken forever to fix. The Ravagers exploit was around 4 weeks or more when 3.0 went live. The issue had been reported in the closed beta even before that. I'm sorry but the inability to resolve exploits and other bugs in this game has reached levels that are hard to fathom.
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12.08.2015 , 08:39 PM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by Spamfritter View Post
If this were one instance then maybe I could give BioWare the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately EVERY exploit that we've seen post 3.0 has taken forever to fix. The Ravagers exploit was around 4 weeks or more when 3.0 went live. The issue had been reported in the closed beta even before that. I'm sorry but the inability to resolve exploits and other bugs in this game has reached levels that are hard to fathom.
again 4 weeks isnt a long turnaround time for a fix... neither is 6 really... depending on what was going on behind the scenes when they tried to fix it... it might seem simple to people but people dont get that fixing one thing has the huge potential of breaking something else... whats the point in fixing an exploit if it opens another? It needs to be tested and it cant get fixed and pushed live right away... they have to test around it and test a lot of things to make sure these things aren't going to break... thats not something that can be done in a few hours...
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12.08.2015 , 08:50 PM | #198
"loss of companion affection"

i cant stop laughing

this will be like ravagers...they will punish like 3 people randomly on each server and ignore 99% of exploiters.

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Spamfritter
12.08.2015 , 08:51 PM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkLadyKeres View Post
again 4 weeks isnt a long turnaround time for a fix... neither is 6 really... depending on what was going on behind the scenes when they tried to fix it... it might seem simple to people but people dont get that fixing one thing has the huge potential of breaking something else... whats the point in fixing an exploit if it opens another? It needs to be tested and it cant get fixed and pushed live right away... they have to test around it and test a lot of things to make sure these things aren't going to break... thats not something that can be done in a few hours...
I didn't say it was. Again the fix for this was done with two changes. 1.) Make decorations from reputation vendors bind on pickup. 2.) Make it so you can't shift+click (buy multiple copies at once) of things like companion gifts. I've seen far more addressed in games in far less time than six weeks. We aren't talking about something as broken as Arkham Knight for the PC.
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12.08.2015 , 08:57 PM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Spamfritter View Post
I didn't say it was. Again the fix for this was done with two changes. 1.) Make decorations from reputation vendors bind on pickup. 2.) Make it so you can't shift+click (buy multiple copies at once) of things like companion gifts. I've seen far more addressed in games in far less time than six weeks. We aren't talking about something as broken as Arkham Knight for the PC.
Actually, the only thing necessary to fix it was to remove the resale timer. Problem solved. You can't resell it, you can't exploit it. That's why Cartel Certificates weren't in the list of currencies that could have been exploited with this method.

Remove one flag from stronghold decorations sold by vendors = 6 weeks? I don't care if you do this for a living or not, that can't be the truth.
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