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Bolstered pvp still in?

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Bolstered pvp still in?

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Sirolos
12.13.2011 , 03:36 PM | #1
Any one know if they removed the bolstered stuff and put in tiered pvp brackets...or are we still gonna have lvl 10*bolstered* v 50?
Quote: Originally Posted by Modecrypt View Post
Sorcs really need to be looked at. They have 7 knockbacks, 5 stuns, , they can cross guard each other
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Don't make me gouge you with my purple origami horns.

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Trooperzero
12.13.2011 , 03:37 PM | #2
answer yes

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Sirolos
12.13.2011 , 03:38 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Trooperzero View Post
answer yes
*sigh* owell..guess I need to learn to deal...thanks troop
Quote: Originally Posted by Modecrypt View Post
Sorcs really need to be looked at. They have 7 knockbacks, 5 stuns, , they can cross guard each other
Quote: Originally Posted by Kholvan View Post
Don't make me gouge you with my purple origami horns.

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Meurik
12.13.2011 , 03:39 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Sirolos View Post
Any one know if they removed the bolstered stuff and put in tiered pvp brackets...or are we still gonna have lvl 10*bolstered* v 50?
I'm not ingame yet (no invite), but I certainly hope the bolster-system is still in place. One of the better things about PVP.

Why would it be a bad thing? Lowlevel players already know that they won't be "as strong" as a proper Level 50 player. Or are you afraid to lose to a few lowlevel characters who gang up against you?
Fear is the path to the Dark Side ...
Fear leads to Anger,
Anger leads to Hate,
Hate leads to Suffering.

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Lucardes
12.13.2011 , 03:40 PM | #5
Are you kidding bolstering is what makes pvp all about skill and BEST Q's ever. There's always good and bad to one side vs the other but this will do more good.. takes adjustment but once you get adjusted trust me you will love the concept.

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Lucardes
12.13.2011 , 03:41 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by meurik View Post
i'm not ingame yet (no invite), but i certainly hope the bolster-system is still in place. One of the better things about pvp.

Why would it be a bad thing? Lowlevel players already know that they won't be "as strong" as a proper level 50 player. Or are you afraid to lose to a few lowlevel characters who gang up against you?
+1 +1 +1 fully agree one of the best things that happen to pvp

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Sirolos
12.13.2011 , 03:44 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Lucardes View Post
Are you kidding bolstering is what makes pvp all about skill and BEST Q's ever. There's always good and bad to one side vs the other but this will do more good.. takes adjustment but once you get adjusted trust me you will love the concept.
I dont mind the bolstered system...played it in beta and loved the numbers..
What i did mind was lvl 10 gets killed by lvl 32...then runs to the forums and cries...

Its why I said I will have to learn to deal...cause when the 20th launch comes...we will be flooded...and I didnt pay attention in school about how to build an arc


Quote: Originally Posted by Meurik View Post
I'm not ingame yet (no invite), but I certainly hope the bolster-system is still in place. One of the better things about PVP.

Why would it be a bad thing? Lowlevel players already know that they won't be "as strong" as a proper Level 50 player. Or are you afraid to lose to a few lowlevel characters who gang up against you?
Pshh Im the best player ebar, as proof of my awesomeness I kept you from getting in today...I also didnt get in today but that was because im awesome

/snark

Quote: Originally Posted by Modecrypt View Post
Sorcs really need to be looked at. They have 7 knockbacks, 5 stuns, , they can cross guard each other
Quote: Originally Posted by Kholvan View Post
Don't make me gouge you with my purple origami horns.

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Meurik
12.13.2011 , 03:47 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Lucardes View Post
+1 +1 +1 fully agree one of the best things that happen to pvp
Frankly, I expect to be doing alot more gaming in a Warzone, than I ever did in WoW Battlegrounds. WoW PVP was somewhat fun back in the "vanilla" days. Before the dark times. Before the Resilience came...

Okay, so I took some creative license on the last part there

The thing I like about TOR PVP is that as you say, it means there will be alot more skill involved, and no longer the 1-2 shot kills from WoW. While you are certainly capable of dishing out high amounts of damage in TOR (atleast according to the videos), one also has to remember, that players will have significantly higher health (compared to damage dealt).

Expertise (TOR equivalent of Resilience), will serve to reduce the damage received to your player, and INCREASE damage dealt by your character. Which means, if there are any lowlevel gear PVP vendors, any amount of extra Expertise would certainly help "bolster" a lowlevel player even better versus a level 50 with no Expertise gear at all.

- 1 on 1 should be somewhat challenging if both players are equal level/gear
- 1 on 1 should be somewhat dominating if 1 player is higher level
- A high level player, should see multiple bolstered lowlevel players as a possible threat
Fear is the path to the Dark Side ...
Fear leads to Anger,
Anger leads to Hate,
Hate leads to Suffering.

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Sirolos
12.13.2011 , 03:51 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Meurik View Post
Frankly, I expect to be doing alot more gaming in a Warzone, than I ever did in WoW Battlegrounds. WoW PVP was somewhat fun back in the "vanilla" days. Before the dark times. Before the Resilience came...

Okay, so I took some creative license on the last part there

The thing I like about TOR PVP is that as you say, it means there will be alot more skill involved, and no longer the 1-2 shot kills from WoW. While you are certainly capable of dishing out high amounts of damage in TOR (atleast according to the videos), one also has to remember, that players will have significantly higher health (compared to damage dealt).

Expertise (TOR equivalent of Resilience), will serve to reduce the damage received to your player, and INCREASE damage dealt by your character. Which means, if there are any lowlevel gear PVP vendors, any amount of extra Expertise would certainly help "bolster" a lowlevel player even better versus a level 50 with no Expertise gear at all.

- 1 on 1 should be somewhat challenging if both players are equal level/gear
- 1 on 1 should be somewhat dominating if 1 player is higher level
- A high level player, should see multiple bolstered lowlevel players as a possible threat
The ending of beta when they added the gear vendors i didnt see any pieces for low lvl's with expertise.

+1 for the skill part..sadly
people arent going to understand that 5 letter word
Quote: Originally Posted by Modecrypt View Post
Sorcs really need to be looked at. They have 7 knockbacks, 5 stuns, , they can cross guard each other
Quote: Originally Posted by Kholvan View Post
Don't make me gouge you with my purple origami horns.

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Meurik
12.13.2011 , 03:53 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Sirolos View Post
The ending of beta when they added the gear vendors i didnt see any pieces for low lvl's with expertise.

+1 for the skill part..sadly
people arent going to understand that 5 letter word
Then it's up to us, to make them understand it

Skill used to matter in PVP. Let's hope TOR can keep the "Higher skilled player wins over Lower skilled player" for as long as possible. And keep "Gear inflation" to a minimum over time.
Fear is the path to the Dark Side ...
Fear leads to Anger,
Anger leads to Hate,
Hate leads to Suffering.