(KOTFE) Do you really have to do PvP to recruit a PvE companion?

No they didn't. Just because companions are used for PvE does not mean they can't be given as a reward for PvP, as there are only 2 out of 40 or so that can be acquired from PvP it really makes most of the PvE'ers come off as entitled and selfish.

In that other thread a lot of us did ourselves no favors, it was a like monkey's flinging poo for about 20 pages and then Leklor and I got productive their at the end and discussed ways to make it easier for players to get the 20 matches done or even lessen/alter the requirements, and then the thread died... I guess some people either a) didn't want to go back to what they figured would be more flinging, or be b) didn't actually want to be productive and just wanted their own needs met.

Yeah at the end I was fed up of being an ***, infact I would have removed my comments but it was pointless as they had been quoted already, I honestly did not have any ideas for alternatives myself it was more of venting without any constructive ideas.

I would have apologised in that thread but I did not want to bring it back up again but there were a few saner people in that thread yourself and Leklor included but obviously not me hehe.

Maybe if the devs are still "hell bent" on keeping the PvP requirement perhaps you could have partake in 20-30 matches but then have some legacy unlock for other characters, almost make it a ball ache for the first character but then no need on the others. A bit like how Legacy datacrons work, some were exceptionally difficult but once you had got the requirement once?

You make a point, they could add alliance crates/companion gifts to the PvP dailies to help incentive the process.

As for what I'd suggested there are a few ways to cut down on the grind or minimize the unpleasantness that can be explored.

~Cut the required matches in half from 20 to 10
~Change it to where it just requires the completion of the PvP Weekly (granted that's 15 matches if you lose every time)
~Cut it down to 5 matches, but 5 wins.
~If they aren't willing to change the number of matches, instead after the initial conversation with 4X/Pierce give the player a full set (implants/relics included) of PvE gear that bolsters properly to 2018 expertise
~Add a legacy/cartel option (Think HK-51/Treek) that after completing the chain on one character you can unlock/purchase him on other characters
~Change the requirements from matches won to medals earned. Instead of 20 matches, say 50 medals. If you get 8-ish medals per match that's less than 10 matches you'd have to compete.

As for PvE alternatives I haven't really considered those... mainly because I still believe outright removing or making the PvP requirement ineffective to be at odds with the intent and making it rather pointless. That and I'm not sure what to suggest that would match the story-intent with the companions and make it PvE friendly. I suppose it could have something to do with rescuing NPC's from the outlaws den, but then People would really be subject to griefing from PvP'ers.

Read and agreed, mostly.
Here's a few options I think the quest could offer, including a PvE one. Tell me what you think.
When faced with the (Soon-to-be) companion on the capital world, you have the following dialog options regarding his request:
-"I'll do it but the Alliance needs me so I won't fight much." => You have to do 5 Warzones, win or lose. Reward: The companion, at influence 3 or 4 tops. No Appropriate rank 6 gift, no Alliance Crate and a few hundreds WZs Comms.
-"The Alliance needs you soon so I'll be quick and I'll win this." => You have to WIN 5 Warzones. Defeats don't count. Reward: Companion at Influence 5 or 6, either the gift or the crate + appropriate WZs Comms.
-"I'll do it" => Replaces the current 20 with ten warzones. Wins count double. Reward identical to right now except WZs commendations cut in half.
-"I'll do more than that." => Turn in the Weekly WZs quest. Reward: Companion at Influence 10 or higher, either two gifts or two crates, appropriate number of WZs comms.
-"I'll crush our ennemies" => Hardcore version: Warzones have to be ranked AND won. Reward: Very high influence level (Near 20 or more), several gifts and crates + another special reward (Maybe a unique Companion customization?) + Ranked commendation.
-"I think the war needs to stop until Zakuul is defeated." This is the PvE option and it's both long and not very rewarding. It would consist in hunting an enemy ranking officier (Champion rank) on nearly every planet in the game (Planets that are supposed to be one-faction only add an "Infiltration unit" there) in a rather remote location (Lorewise they'd be opposed to a truce and silencing them is the only way for a relatively tenuous peace to be reached with the Empire/Republic) . Each officier must be defeated ungrouped. Reward: Just the companion, at Influence 1, no comms (Obvious really), a few CDC, no companion gift, no Alliance Ressources crates. Basically, the least rewarding option and potentially the most tedious since there'll be a lot of backtracking.

What do you think (I tried to gimp the PvE option to make it the lesser alternative, because as I said, I can't stand PvP in large ammounts but small are fine, and sometimes I just want to do something new.)?
Any adjustements you'd offer?

I think if you keep the PvP requirement and not adding a PvE option there are 2 ways of altering the quest to suit more people:

1) reduce the requirements for the war zones perhaps from 20 to say 10 but wins still count as double, with maybe a slight bonus if you pick up the PvP Daily too?
or
2) increase the requirements for the war zones on a single character, but then allow it to be transferred to legacy, which would then get the the same conversation as you would have with them as if you had 40 valor.

I mean whatever happens I think the PvP requirement should be altered in some way so that at least it is less daunting for those without any PvP inclination.

*snip*

TBH, as Billupsat admited to it, I did take part into the "bad" part of the previous thread quite a lot. It's only when I directly started talking to him and found someone with whom I could discuss a potential solution/change to the quest that the saner part of my personality managed to kick "Troll-Me" out of my head.
Sad that thread died but at least our propositions have been C/Ced by Billupsat and maybe we'll manage to resume a peaceful discussion here ^^