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Sick and Tired ..............

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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 11:12 AM | #71
While I find the OP's alleged outrage silly, and the tone and text of his posts poorly crafted to persuade, I actually agree with the salient point of his rant: Tweaking Group Finder to allow a check-box for HM FPs sans convos is a fine idea. It is the shortcut to what many posters have (rightly) suggested: "Work out the details of the run before you start the FP." A simple check-box would avoid unnecessary pre-FP discussion over space-barring and accomplishes another sage bit of advice given in this thread: "Find others who want to play the way you do." Theoretically, checking the "no-convos" box announces that a player does, indeed, want to play the way the OP does.

And while we're tweaking Group Finder, perhaps we can add check-boxes for agreed-upon loot rules. Offer a box for every player who wants to Need on every drop in the FP regardless of class. Imagine the heartbreak and Forum rants avoided by such an option.

I'm sure there are other ways we could micro-manage Group Finder options to ensure that we only play with others who share our respective perspectives, opinions, and sensibilities.

Finally, for the record, I try to avoid petty lashing out at players who demand "MOAR SPACBRZ NOW!!!" But even a friendly, rational request to space-bar will not affect my response. If I've seen the FP dialogue, I don't care whether we space-bar or not, and I say so regardless of the tenor of the request. But, yes, the overly insistent player ends up on my Ignore list as soon as the FP ends. If anyone in the group is running the FP for the first time or (especially Esselles or Black Talon) on a new class, I don't care if they want to watch the show.

TLDR: Options are good. Especially if they help me avoid tools like the OP when queuing for a FP.

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IzumiCurtis
06.30.2015 , 11:13 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
It's people like you that do things just to annoy someone else, that ruin social activities.
Erm, if someone is making a comeplete ******* of themself with 'SPACEBAR SPACEBAR **** USE THE F*CKING SPACEBAR NAO!!!!!' why should I want to make them happy? If they're polite, I'll skip. If they act like a toddler throwing a tantrum? Nope.
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Anaesha
06.30.2015 , 11:17 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by IzumiCurtis View Post
Erm, if someone is making a comeplete ******* of themself with 'SPACEBAR SPACEBAR **** USE THE F*CKING SPACEBAR NAO!!!!!' why should I want to make them happy? If they're polite, I'll skip. If they act like a toddler throwing a tantrum? Nope.
^This

If you ask nicely I'm more then happy to skip through the cut scenes but if you act like a complete dick and demand that I do it then I'll either drop group or if I'm the leader I'll boot your ***.

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TUXs
06.30.2015 , 11:19 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by IzumiCurtis View Post
Erm, if someone is making a comeplete ******* of themself with 'SPACEBAR SPACEBAR **** USE THE F*CKING SPACEBAR NAO!!!!!' why should I want to make them happy? If they're polite, I'll skip. If they act like a toddler throwing a tantrum? Nope.
You shouldn't. You should say something and then initiate a vote kick. It's the intentionally trying to irritate someone I disagree with.
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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 11:22 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
It's people like you who mistake watching a movie as a "social activity".
That is how our characters earn social points. No, it's not very social at a player level, but that's how it is on a character level. And sure, if you wanted to socialize with other players, you'd just stay on fleet and chat.

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I never said anything about little interaction...chat up a storm if ya like...just keep up and keep hitting your spacebar, because HM's aren't run for the story.
You are seriously telling us that you're OK with people chatting in HMs, which might very well take way more time than watching a couple of cut scenes, but watching those few cut scenes is beyond the pale? Does not compute. The silliest t hing is that most FPs do indeed have very few cut scenes, so the time "wasted" is a couple of minutes. If you can't spare a couple of minutes in a computer game, you should not be playing a game in the first place because you clearly have some important matters to attend to.

Lucky for the adults that the toddlers can't force the adults to space bar.

Edit: what they should do is make a GF tool like DDO: you advertise that you are LFM or LFG for a certain quest and you can put a note about it, like "RP run," or "zerg run" or "all optionals" or "no optionals." That way you get grouped with like-minded players.

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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 11:25 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
You shouldn't. You should say something and then initiate a vote kick. It's the intentionally trying to irritate someone I disagree with.
Hate to say it, but I agree with TUXs.

I don't like to add someone to my Ignore list during a FP. But not adding the obstreperous player to my Ignore list doesn't prevent me from ignoring his tantrum. Pay no attention to him and one of three things will happen:

1. He shuts up and finishes the FP.
2. He quits the FP.
3. He becomes actually disruptive (AFKs, refusing to tank/heal/fight, etc.), at which point, you kick him.

I'm comfortable with each of those results.

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Kantaso
06.30.2015 , 11:29 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Nagas_Fury View Post
I'm so damn tired of not having the option to bypass storyline in Flash Points!!!!! Once you have run a FP for the 900th time you get so frustrated with those who seem to want to watch the same story over and over and over ....... ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!! Bio-Ware needs to give the option to queue up for HM FPs without storyline. I'm sick and tired of queuing up for FPs and getting the group that refuses to space bar through the story line, even though you know they have seen it by their achievement list. FFS people give us an option to by pass the story line crap in FPs or stop making us go through it. I don't need to have a light side or dark side choice after every damn kill. I've left countless FPs because of this. You know damn good and well that I'm not the only one out there, many people have said the same thing, so stop making the story line interrupt the FP's momentum by making us sit through it over and over again!
900th time? Wow dude, you are amazing, usually in my runs before we start we asked if anyone is new to them if they say not we encourage the use of the spacebar, but again you must remember that there is a big enemy for speed and it is called "LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG", it happens, people are pressing the spacebar and the "LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGG" kicks in slowing down the process.
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Kantaso
06.30.2015 , 11:31 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Anaesha View Post
^This

If you ask nicely I'm more then happy to skip through the cut scenes but if you act like a complete dick and demand that I do it then I'll either drop group or if I'm the leader I'll boot your ***.
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Jadescythe
06.30.2015 , 11:32 AM | #79
Please re-read the OP before commenting. He simply does not enjoy the story anymore and that is an opinion. His solution was to offer the ability to queue up through GF denoting that you do not want the story portions of the FPs. In no way is he stating that players shouldn't be able to watch story in GF or that he constantly types SPACEBAR in every flashpoint he is in. It isn't selfish and it isn't harmful to other players, so I'm not sure where people are coming to that conclusion.

I think there are multiple players who would enjoy something like this and while I don't think it will be successful (due to queue times), it is certianly worth discussing.
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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 11:39 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Please re-read the OP before commenting. He simply does not enjoy the story anymore and that is an opinion. His solution was to offer the ability to queue up through GF denoting that you do not want the story portions of the FPs. In no way is he stating that players shouldn't be able to watch story in GF or that he constantly types SPACEBAR in every flashpoint he is in. It isn't selfish and it isn't harmful to other players, so I'm not sure where people are coming to that conclusion.

I think there are multiple players who would enjoy something like this and while I don't think it will be successful (due to queue times), it is certianly worth discussing.
You raise an interesting question. Suppose we had to select an option in Group Finder to either have the convos or skip them. Which group of players would see the quickest queues? I actually think it would be those who elect to skip the convos.