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Saetun
06.18.2015 , 11:23 AM | #51
I really don't understand why everyone complains about the engine so much...

Running just fine here with no complaints whatsoever. (the db queries for some features could use some optimization but the graphics engine runs 100% fine for me). In fact I would say in my case this is one the best performing MMO's I have ever played.

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BrianDavion
06.18.2015 , 11:32 AM | #52
rebuilding the game would be a huge undertaking ala the FF XIV relaunch.
SWTOR is not SWG. it was never intended to be at all like SWG. and having a completly differnt design philophesy then SWG will never be like SWG

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Jumajin
06.18.2015 , 11:58 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by BrianDavion View Post
rebuilding the game would be a huge undertaking ala the FF XIV relaunch.
Well, I will say this, although I don't play it because I've never been a FF fan, and never cared much for the art style, having done the trial, it is a nicely constructed game.

That said, the original FF XIV also had issues far and above, by several magnitude, what SWTOR suffers. So, they had little choice but to rebuild the whole thing or just shut it down and take the studio reputation hit.

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Saetun
06.18.2015 , 12:02 PM | #54
they don't need to... People need to get some modern computers, or at least learn how to properly configure the ones they have.

3 machines in my house that are all used to play SWToR

Corei7 5820k (OC'ed to 4.1ghz)
32 GB DDR3
256GB AData SATA III SSD
Nvidia 970 GTX

Corei5 3570k (3.4ghz, stock frequency)
16 GB Ram
256GB AData SATA III SSD
Nvidia 770 GTX

Corei7 2600k (OC'ed to 4ghz)
16 GB Ram
256GB AData SATA III SSD
Radeon 6970 HD

All 3 of these different computers run the game without any hint of lag under any load.

Heres a big hint I have seen as a problem in most MMO's. If you have anything less than a model number ending in 70 from either video card manufacturer, you have a BUDGET low performance machine. These cards are made to allow people to have access to new features (i.e. DX11, shader models, etc...), but are in reality LESS powerful than the previous model line! (i.e. the GTX 770 beats a GTX 960 in most benchmarks, and they are the same price!). If your processor is more than 5 years old, you might need an upgrade. Just because clock speeds haven't increased really, doesn't mean anything. A 4ghz core i7 from 5 years ago, will get beat by a 4ghz from today. By a fairly decent amount. The architecture of processors has changed greatly. if you have an AMD processor, you should replace it. They are no longer relevant and you can buy a midrange corei5 that will smoke even the best AMD processors for less money. Not to mention that AMD does not even support all modern instruction sets any longer (especially when it comes to multicore processing). Intel has been concentrating on efficiency over raw horsepower. And especially in games like SWToR that are CPU heavy the modern architecture really shines.

When investigated I find most performance issues in most MMO's lie with the user and their computer. No application is ever perfect. A budget computer will always have budget performance. There will always be issues on some machines, no matter what engine is used. Every single one has it's problems and quirks.

And... if you are on a laptop and complaining... What did you really expect? It's a laptop!

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JamieKirby
06.18.2015 , 12:06 PM | #55
SWG Pre:CU? seriously? you just want to grind everywhere? no story? sorry, but no story....no fun at all.

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Varlak
06.18.2015 , 03:05 PM | #56
I have an overkill PC for this game 680gtx sli and the game is just not smooth at time even when Im alone in the zone. NPC flyjng car on coruscanrlt is a perfect exemple. They dont lag they just skip back every 2 second. A lot of vehicule movement arent fluid and I got that dam bug where my character start turning right side forever untill I change some keybind.

The flora is growing up like 30feet ahead of me and well the graphix never been that great anyway.

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MeNaCe-NZ
06.18.2015 , 04:53 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
EXACTLY!!!

With my extensive history of modding levels and doing models for mods in games like UT, Jedi Knight and Battlefront, I'm pretty much a freaking "expert" on all video game design
Nice subtle use of sarcasm there.

Threads like this must really give LNF their weekly quota of 'troll caused tears' I feel also.

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Lindraskada
06.19.2015 , 12:41 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by jedimasterjac View Post
Translation: I do not understand the resources, money, or time necessary to completely remake the game, nor do I have the knowledge of game engines to know that this is not a simple process; therefore, I will make this demand, as well as touting to be a "community representative."
can we get this on a tshirt ?

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ZETA_SCORPII
06.19.2015 , 01:42 AM | #59
So you have a Walmart PC OP? Upgrade.

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LoverNoFighter
06.19.2015 , 05:00 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by kidatwood View Post
I find it odd that a developer hasnt said yes or no to this. Id figure they would say no by now............
Since they haven't, it could well be that it is possible but pride stands in the way of them giving us a proper engine.
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