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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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GalacticStarfigh
06.26.2015 , 06:22 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Aumvaar View Post

I'm on the last quest on Makeb, so I don't know.
Wait..so, basically you are arguing my observations and issues largely based on Bioware's post - Makeb design without having seen Bioware's post-Makeb design? I bet there is some good catch phrase for this behaviour too!

Last boss of Makeb was very cool iirc.

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Aumvaar
06.26.2015 , 06:29 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticStarfigh View Post
It is a thing of beauty how hard it seems to argue about anything on this forum without running to whichever FOTM pile of internet debate catch phrase accusations. Hyperbole this, " well, that's like your narrative man" that. Argue people, don't devote half of your post in trying to dismiss their argument with lame all purpose umbrella terms.
Right. Your "argument" is a long-winded way of claiming that most people are talentless, unskilled scrubs with no imagination & no care -- a claim I've seen from people *just like you* on *every* MMO forum since 1997.

But I'm the one who couldn't respond with resorting to "FOTM" accusations? Tha'ts a head-desk if ever I've seen one. As a result, that very last line nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard & monitor. Seriously: if you gave me something to argue that WASN'T "lame all-purpose umbrella terms" I might take you seriously, but so far, in this thread at least, all I've seen from you is hand-waving rhetoric.

Have a nice day. I'm off to Rishii, like a good lil toddler sheep.
Nimbus! Agnosticus! Lazaan, bedar!
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Ebon Hawk Imperial: Lazaan, Sith Sorcerer

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Aumvaar
06.26.2015 , 06:33 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticStarfigh View Post
Wait..so, basically you are arguing my observations and issues largely based on Bioware's post - Makeb design without having seen Bioware's post-Makeb design?
No, I'm arguing your insults based on your insults. I can't argue your "observations" on the last few planets. However, I've got a sneaky suspicion that by the time I "finish" I won't agree with you any more than I do now. We'll see.

I've got about 5-6 people I know in real life who are telling me I'll have a lot of fun in these last 5 levels, so you'll forgive me if I choose to pay more attention to them, than I do to Random Internet Poster #1billion who can't even formulate an argument without insulting thousands of people he doesn't even know.

& yes, there's a term for what I did: it's called "being honest" with one's disputants. If you have an issue with honesty, that's your business, not mine.
Nimbus! Agnosticus! Lazaan, bedar!
Ebon Hawk Republic: Obi'dia, Jedi Guardian
Ebon Hawk Imperial: Lazaan, Sith Sorcerer

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curulz
06.26.2015 , 06:52 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Conundrum-NSA View Post
Far far away from my area of expertise.
Sounds about right

To think that they should make decisions based on what they believe is fun vs. data, trends, focus groups, etc. shows me that you are thinking with emotion rather than your head. Nothing wrong with that, this game is your fun. But for BW it's their business.

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GalacticStarfigh
06.26.2015 , 06:53 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Aumvaar View Post
I can't argue your "observations" on the last few planets. However, I've got a sneaky suspicion that by the time I "finish" I won't agree with you any more than I do now. We'll see.
If you can't argue with my main argument, then please don't. Otherwise you end up in a situation where you start arguing yourself by dreaming up " insults" I've never really made and then getting all excited out of those. I'm glad you've already prematurely decided to keep disagreeing with me though! Cheers! Have fun in Forged Alliances solo FPs.

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Malastare
06.26.2015 , 07:06 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Edzew View Post
umm we did just pay for a new expansion and now they spring this "new free expansion" on us...
Right. We just paid for it. In that... we paid for it nearly 7 months ago, and the next expansion is coming in 4 more months.

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Sarfux
06.26.2015 , 07:09 AM | #67
where the heck did this "nge" stuff come from. Have you been talking to LNF again? No op! bad op no *sprays with water*
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Savej
06.26.2015 , 07:10 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Conundrum-NSA View Post
Many people here still remember the imfamous NGE from Star Wars Galaxies. I'm sure most of those changes sounded good on paper, but players hated them and it accelerated the games death.
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Many people might but I'm not convinced you do. You haven't posted any details about the NGE or made any real comparisons with it vs the current SWTOR expansion situation other than you don't know anything.

Here's what we know:
1) They aren't removing classes.
2) They aren't redesigning classes. They've mentioned everyone will get something like 1 or 2 new abilities the same as with past level increases.
3) They aren't rewriting combat. There may be enhancements/changes that mix things up but nothing cosmically different.
4) Most content is going to be the same as it is now. Companions will get mixed up for level 60s who sub. Old fps/raids are going up to 60.
5) Every expac in this game and several large patches have posters like you trolling with NGE proclamations and otherwise no clue. Google "swtor nge 3.0", "swtor nge 2.0", "swtor nge"...
6) This game is in need of a real expansion and I welcome it. A lot of people that are screaming for a new engine (not me - I would like a SWTOR 2.0 that isn't built around consoles but a patched new engine here would be insane) are also asking for an NGE but they don't know it. But who knows, maybe BW would get an NGE sized rewrite right?

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hadoken
06.26.2015 , 07:10 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
Wow. As I said before, NGE really, really, reeeaaally scarred some people for life.
More than you know. One of the developers behind it committed suicide afterwards. Not even a bad joke.

This is why I cringe every time someone compares something to the NGE. They clearly have NO idea.

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Sarfux
06.26.2015 , 07:11 AM | #70
Also, it's not going to be anything like the NGE! Where do people think of this stuff?

It's going to be absolutely amazing.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be