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HM Ravagers & Temple progression thread


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JDotter
02.16.2015 , 07:14 PM | #1
So I was mostly bored and waiting for raid so I decided to gather what I could find and see how many guilds are at least 8/10. My main purpose of the thread is to ask Bioware how the experiment in increased operation difficulty is going and if they are happy with the current progress.

I ask we keep it clean I'm not interested in who killed what when just that "X" guild has killed it. I did most of the work already (Thank you those that run server forums) but if you see a particular guild missing or have a guild to add please post.

10/10
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9/10 (Killed Revan)

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9/10 (killed Coratanni)


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8/10
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So we have five guilds at 100% 2 months after content was released. For comparison sake NM DP Source had 10 guilds listed and the #9 listing was about two months after release. I know Furyi stopped updating the thread and I'd personally guess that 15+ cleared 5/5 NM DP pre nerf.

So Bioware are you ok with the following

- Seventeen guilds being 10/10
- Thirty- three guilds being 9/10
- Twenty - five guilds being 8/10

Last of all with the increased difficulty those that are 8/10 or 8/10 are you enjoying raiding? Would you rather have HM be similar to HM DF/DP or does Revan only being killed by five guilds give you something to chase?


Anyhow please post guilds I missed or overlooked. I'm also going to list secondary groups in guilds for a better overall picture.

Thanks

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marekdusek
02.16.2015 , 07:57 PM | #2
Killing Revan was 10000x more rewarding than anything else in this tier, so for me personally: thumbs up!

However, I do believe it is an overtuned fight considering its "just a HM", and it should be nerfed, BUT, at the same time the NiM versions should not be 5 months or something apart from HM, yet much closer - that way all guilds would have something to do. This way its just a NiM mode disguised as HM, which may just demoralize some.

TL;DR Nerf HM, bring NiM sooner (2-3m after HM rather than 5-6m)
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raidmac
02.16.2015 , 08:16 PM | #3
I believe if you looked at "B" groups this list would be a lot larger, at least for the 8/10 category. Both Textbook and YES had 1 group one year ago, and now YES has 3 groups that are 8/10 and Textbook has 2. The game has really changed over the past year as guilds folded, and no new guilds came up to take over. This is something that I have observed on both the Harbinger and Begeren Colony.

And do I enjoy the harder difficulty? yeah. I've always enjoyed raiding with my group, but that may just me. I've been raiding with the same core of people for over 2 years now, and even though some of us could probably join a better group we would all prefer to raid with our friends.

With my best estimation, NiM will come out in June, and I think a few more groups will get Revan down by then. And I would rather struggle on a boss for a while rather than kill it like HM DF DP.
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Gyronamics
02.16.2015 , 09:12 PM | #4
Developers are failing to account for the extra lag and delays in 16m raiding when putting in certain mechanics.

It broke Underlurker requiring the fight to be fixed (and meanwhile bypassed using 8m HM).

Currently the warning for Hostage Situation at Ruugar in 16m can turn up during or after the actual Hostage Situation.

Works fine in 8m.

Badly implemented in 16m.

Apart from that, no real issues with the new content.
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justinplainview
02.16.2015 , 09:18 PM | #5
Yeah, it is helpful for the devs to know the context behind the guild numbers. Multiple guilds have multiple groups going 8/10 or better, so if the devs want a true baseline, we may want to try and get how many groups each guild can full clear or 9/10 or 8/10 just so the devs can get better estimates.

Other guilds you haven't listed that are 9/10 are

Phantoms (EU)
Rash (EU)

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Mazanator
02.16.2015 , 10:00 PM | #6
DiLiH 9/10 (Cora Killed)

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Mazanator
02.16.2015 , 10:15 PM | #7
Also we need to come up with a better name than NGE and friends
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02.16.2015 , 10:16 PM | #8
The Chandrian killed Cora tonight, putting us at 9/10
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Mazanator
02.16.2015 , 10:20 PM | #9
edit: somehow posted this twice, GJ BW.
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naNuke
02.16.2015 , 10:21 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by justinplainview View Post
Yeah, it is helpful for the devs to know the context behind the guild numbers. Multiple guilds have multiple groups going 8/10 or better, so if the devs want a true baseline, we may want to try and get how many groups each guild can full clear or 9/10 or 8/10 just so the devs can get better estimates.
Always good for players who actually care about this to have more info, but I am certain that devs don't care about what guilds post on the forums, as they have their own logs and can just see who killed what and when, run whatever stats they want.

Also 8/10 is not THAT hard for most guilds to accomplish and 99% of those wont bother posting anything because why would they.