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Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

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Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

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Zadtro
02.09.2015 , 09:05 PM | #651
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
Ik right. This game is great in concept but has been disappointing in execution to say the least. Classes that felt smooth are getting nerfed and PVP is getting stale with all the neglect. PT will be meh again, nerf to damage but 0 survivability fixed even though BH continues to struggle. I play all the classes but with this seasons projections it will be garbage either way. We get another huttball but no decent rewards. 8v8 will get another map while actual PVPers will be stuck with ****** makeb that lags for most.
I love the old republic story. I miss 8v8 ranked for one. I like PT being great, i think that cannon was a bit OP but i am hoping after that it will still be decent enough to play. Not a huge fan of makeb huttball, i liked the idea of multiple lvls but it is so easy to score, get a vigi/veng guard/jugg then friend leap then normal leap and goal, soooo easy it is disappointing =[

I play all the classes too so i can understand how to fight them and season 4 does not look promising, need some rock paper scissors style deal. Not scissors cuts paper then resists rock, then dots the crap out of rock which spreads to paper then lol stealths away and watches :/

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headshot_hendo
02.09.2015 , 09:24 PM | #652
Quote: Originally Posted by Zadtro View Post
I love the old republic story. I miss 8v8 ranked for one. I like PT being great, i think that cannon was a bit OP but i am hoping after that it will still be decent enough to play. Not a huge fan of makeb huttball, i liked the idea of multiple lvls but it is so easy to score, get a vigi/veng guard/jugg then friend leap then normal leap and goal, soooo easy it is disappointing =[

I play all the classes too so i can understand how to fight them and season 4 does not look promising, need some rock paper scissors style deal. Not scissors cuts paper then resists rock, then dots the crap out of rock which spreads to paper then lol stealths away and watches :/
People ask why I play FOTM lol. Well that would be because you clowns *****ed about my PT and made it so it sucks yet again.

So you know what I may not quit this season. I think I might just roll my shadow and sins constantly. I will force people to quit out of redemption for PT woes over the last few years.

Then OFC I will quit.

Not you though zad lol. The other clowns who got pyro nerfed out of solidarity. That frustrates me more than anything lol. Why would you nerf one of the coolest looking but terrible (damage wise, and defense) spec.

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Zadtro
02.09.2015 , 09:49 PM | #653
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
People ask why I play FOTM lol. Well that would be because you clowns *****ed about my PT and made it so it sucks yet again.

So you know what I may not quit this season. I think I might just roll my shadow and sins constantly. I will force people to quit out of redemption for PT woes over the last few years.

Then OFC I will quit.

Not you though zad lol. The other clowns who got pyro nerfed out of solidarity. That frustrates me more than anything lol. Why would you nerf one of the coolest looking but terrible (damage wise, and defense) spec.
I don't blame anyone for going Fotm, games are meant to be about having fun, i don't think being steam rolled is fun so for a better game experience players should re-roll. Sometimes i think they are making players bounce around to different classes to make it feel like more content..

I don't see why a counter class type system is so bad. I kinda feel that dot spread is causing most of these issues because it is viable to have multiple dot spread classes stacked on one team.

I chose a PT over a merc =] shame it got nerfed :/

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Hei_Atzfel
02.09.2015 , 10:16 PM | #654
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
People ask why I play FOTM lol. Well that would be because you clowns *****ed about my PT and made it so it sucks yet again.

So you know what I may not quit this season. I think I might just roll my shadow and sins constantly. I will force people to quit out of redemption for PT woes over the last few years.

Then OFC I will quit.

Not you though zad lol. The other clowns who got pyro nerfed out of solidarity. That frustrates me more than anything lol. Why would you nerf one of the coolest looking but terrible (damage wise, and defense) spec.
If you think the nerf to shoulder cannon is going to make AP bad then you're clearly one of the people who ran the spec because of lolshouldercannonspam

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headshot_hendo
02.09.2015 , 10:39 PM | #655
Quote: Originally Posted by Hei_Atzfel View Post
If you think the nerf to shoulder cannon is going to make AP bad then you're clearly one of the people who ran the spec because of lolshouldercannonspam
I played it before 3.0 lol. If you think a nerf to a soft class without a defensive trade-off is ok, lolplayaPT.

It isnt AP being nerfed that is my issue. Had they just fixed the ICD it would have been fine. They nerfed Pyro you idiot. Should they nerf maras and mercs too?

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DrthTorkwemada
02.10.2015 , 01:36 AM | #656
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
People ask why I play FOTM lol. Well that would be because you clowns *****ed about my PT and made it so it sucks yet again.

So you know what I may not quit this season. I think I might just roll my shadow and sins constantly. I will force people to quit out of redemption for PT woes over the last few years.

Then OFC I will quit.

Not you though zad lol. The other clowns who got pyro nerfed out of solidarity. That frustrates me more than anything lol. Why would you nerf one of the coolest looking but terrible (damage wise, and defense) spec.
That's why there are 3-4 shadows in every second arena match

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Ankhkharu
02.10.2015 , 05:21 AM | #657
Hatred is the most effective of all specs in delivering pressure and spike-y damage if focused. This is why it's so easy to open up as sin, and in three globals have dots ticking on enemy team, doing maximum dps possible from that point not worrying about getting gibbed. Right now with nerf to PT there is virtually no stopping the sin from reconsidering this tactics. The class is unstoppable, it might not have the burst of other classes but the damage is solid, needs to be healed if not purged and sin himself is difficult to stop once he's on you.

Reduce aoe healing, reduce dotspread damage , nerf forcequake/storm utility and then I can start playing deception again.
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magnashear
02.10.2015 , 06:27 AM | #658
Let the healers aoe spread hots if one person in the aoe has a hot on em.

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magnashear
02.10.2015 , 06:37 AM | #659
I don't main a pt but I have an alt so I can't really speak for the meta game. The nerf doesn't seem that bad to me. I forget I have sc for the most part. I use it every 1.5 minutes but still seem to do mad dmg when it's on cd. Seems kinda faceroll, press some buttons rail shot press some buttons rail shot ect. With super speed seemingly always up and the dmg reduction dcds it feels less squishy than a lot of other ac's.

I've never played pyro. I don't understand what the nerf was to pyro. I haven't seen it spelled out on the forums and I haven't asked in guild what the specifics are. If someone would explain it to me I'd appreciate it or if your busy I'll just ask guild if I remember.

Pulling someone into the middle of your group and then global them is fun. Especially in ah.

Edit: is it the Dmg reduction to imolate and flam fist plus sc that is the nerf? The post says something else got a dmg increase in the spec. How much was the dmg reduced on imolate and flaming fist?

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Zoom_VI
02.10.2015 , 08:22 AM | #660
Pyro was nerfed because bioware is trying to bring down PT DPS in raids since current PTs are the best raid DPS right now.
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