Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

They are trying to but there are alot of "NERF NAO" posts that seem illogical to me. We havent even seen the revised changes to warrior yet or the rough changes for other classes for that matter. You cant say this is OP and needs nerfed accurately without that information first.

Honestly every class but sin could possibly recieve a defense buff. Where does that put sins? Probably on par.

They wont change the damage because it affects pve. Defensives however are more impacting in PVP so an increase in defense seems to be the next step which will reduce the effectiveness of alot of the "OP" classes.

Hatred is incredibly over powered based on the game right now. That much is clear and can't be denied by any rational person. The changes to other classes may help some, but only with those classes. Hatred is above all classes not just warriors.

PT Sorc Jugg and Sin feel fine to me. Sniper is hard but should be a mastery class IMO. Everyone knows mara and merc are weak on defensives. Operatives seem solid to me as well some have killed me and ive killed some just depends on the scenario. No class is over-performing for me because there is no median yet.

Any claim anyone makes is unfounded cries during a time of massive game change.

In alot of other people opinions Mara, which gets slaughtered in my experience, is the median and everything should be scaled down to them.

Personally I prefer progression over regression.

The entire point is you cant rightfully claim nerf if you dont have the information that is upcoming. With the changes hatred may "under-perform" and where will all the posters be then? "It was OP before but it sucks now oh well **** em"

Just warriors arent being buffed/fixed lol. BW is doing he smartest thing I have seen them do since launch. They are making changes testing them, then making more changes before moving to a new class and implementing the changes.

How is it not? We have 0 info about upcoming changes to classes excluding warriors. How do you know its OP, insider info?

They are making changes based on current balance. Those changes should definitely include a nerf to hatred. I'm fine with them making changes to several classes, but to think they can just leave hatred out of it is ridiculous. They are one of the most obvious examples of imbalance currently.

Turrican was on harbinger last season i believe.

He is not worth arguing with. We're arguing with a guy who mained smash when it was OP, and take a look.. no surprise his mains now are Shadow/PT. What a coincidence. He's as biased as they come. He's also one of the only people truly defending hatred's current status. By his sig he clearly places a ton of value his place in this game, so he is naturally protecting any threat to it. It's expected human irrationality... like when someone commits a murder their parents always say, "there's no way my son is a murderer... he is the best kid". Hah.

so much of this argument is based on skill. I have no problem killing hatred sins individually there only a problem when they are two stacked in ranked play. There is no real defense to the style of play being adopted by teams running two hatred sins unless you know a few actually good snipers or a pt that doesn't die in 5 seconds. The whole "most op class ever" seems like your over stating it. I don't think they beat 1.0 ops with stims and relics

If they are making changes based on current "balance" why wouldnt they be adjusting defensives to counter hatred? Since in your opinion it is the largest issue that needs to be addressed( you fail to consider sorcs doing 5k dps in regs). In your thought process why would alter 2 variables instead of 1?