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Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

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Hatred Sins most OP spec in HISTORY of SWTOR

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foxmob
01.25.2015 , 01:51 PM | #241
Quote: Originally Posted by magnashear View Post
I wonder am I playing the same game as y'all. That's referring to the forum posters who are so afraid of hatred. In my guild no one is worried about hatred assassins. When I solo queue ranked with randoms nobody is ever concerned when the other team has 2+ hatred. People usually only get worried when the other team has multiple sorcerers or powerTechs. hatred does look really pretty on the scoreboard I guess but when you have one attacking you they don't seem to be able to kill you very fast. And they do have some survivability though and are usually one of the last targets we kill. Sometimes if I see one I recognized as being a good player I will ask for a hard switch on them.they either die or run and hide somewhere why we kill the rest of the team.
any solo comp with a stealth advantage has a significant advantage. the sin can control the fight in every way. and then you get juggs jumping in with super immunity or just have the sin control your merc/sniper while the PT destroys him all on his own. there are great sins who carry. but most of the time in solo, the problem is they control the whole fight, and there's nothing you do but eat it. but you are right...there are a lot of sins that have no idea how to use all that survivability and control they have (both specs).
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Saikochoro
01.25.2015 , 01:55 PM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
How can you claim something is out of the middle when you havent even established the middle?
If you look around the forums the classes have been ranked generally the same. Playing the game will give you an idea of which classes over perform, which classes are fine, and which classes are under performing.

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headshot_hendo
01.25.2015 , 01:58 PM | #243
Stop letting emotions get in the way and just think for 5 seconds.

Why dont we buff the classes first see how it affects things then make adjustments.

Certain classes beat others. If Class A is strong vs Class B but lacks the defensives or ease of play to apply it not only to Class B but Class B-Z. Logically why would you nerf Class B if Class A is going to receive buffs to negate this issue?

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Evolixe
01.25.2015 , 01:58 PM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
Stop letting emotions get in the way and just think for 5 seconds.

Why dont we buff the classes first see how it affects things then make adjustments.

Certain classes beat others. If Class A is strong vs Class B but lacks the defensives or ease of play to apply it not only to Class B but Class B-Z. Logically why would you nerf Class B if Class A is going to receive buffs to negate this issue?
Because what you describe isn't going on in the first place.. /facepalm
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AlrikFassbauer
01.25.2015 , 02:01 PM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
Why dont we buff the classes first see how it affects things then make adjustments.
Isn't that what Bioware already tries to do ?
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01.25.2015 , 02:04 PM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
Stop letting emotions get in the way and just think for 5 seconds.

Why dont we buff the classes first see how it affects things then make adjustments.

Certain classes beat others. If Class A is strong vs Class B but lacks the defensives or ease of play to apply it not only to Class B but Class B-Z. Logically why would you nerf Class B if Class A is going to receive buffs to negate this issue?
I would rather BW nerf PT burst and nerf all these god mode dcds that many classes now have. but that isn't going to happen.
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headshot_hendo
01.25.2015 , 02:04 PM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Saikochoro View Post
If you look around the forums the classes have been ranked generally the same. Playing the game will give you an idea of which classes over perform, which classes are fine, and which classes are under performing.
Ah so you mean PT's Sorcs, Sins, Juggs, OPs, Mercs, Snipers and Marauders are all OP because people ***** about them? Go look there are nerf posts about mercs and marauders. Which classes are fine? When playing all I see is the enemy team returning to the respawn. I see Victory screens constantly because players play objs in regs. In solo que i see victory because i play to keep my team up.

By this logic we should nerf OBJ, Utility playstyles, and more specifically me.

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headshot_hendo
01.25.2015 , 02:06 PM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
I would rather BW nerf PT burst and nerf all these god mode dcds that many classes now have. but that isn't going to happen.
Agreed it is really fast paced, at the same time its not drawn out like WOW, a fight lasts 30-45 secs usually when 1v1. Logically BW wont go backwards so bringing everything up is the only option ive seen.

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headshot_hendo
01.25.2015 , 02:08 PM | #249
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
any solo comp with a stealth advantage has a significant advantage. the sin can control the fight in every way. and then you get juggs jumping in with super immunity or just have the sin control your merc/sniper while the PT destroys him all on his own. there are great sins who carry. but most of the time in solo, the problem is they control the whole fight, and there's nothing you do but eat it. but you are right...there are a lot of sins that have no idea how to use all that survivability and control they have (both specs).
I always enjoy your input because you played merc and PT when we got nerfed as well. Please tell me you dont support another nerf policy.

Well lol a few mercs hope other classes get the same treatment that we got lol.

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Saikochoro
01.25.2015 , 02:15 PM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by headshot_hendo View Post
Ah so you mean PT's Sorcs, Sins, Juggs, OPs, Mercs, Snipers and Marauders are all OP because people ***** about them? Go look there are nerf posts about mercs and marauders. Which classes are fine? When playing all I see is the enemy team returning to the respawn. I see Victory screens constantly because players play objs in regs. In solo que i see victory because i play to keep my team up.

By this logic we should nerf OBJ, Utility playstyles, and more specifically me.
Yeah and those are troll posts or PVE posts. If you look at most of the threads you can see a general trend. That aside: play the game and you will see which classes are fine, which are over performing, and which aren't up to snuff.