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tunewalker
01.07.2015 , 01:31 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Silenceo View Post
He's onto me!

Customization is the name of the game, though likely won't be seen terribly much until everyone is setup decently.

Gotta figure out how to handle designs and blueprints. Can't just let people have all the epic stuff available right off the bat.
MAYBE.. I will tempt fate and choose some Hapan craft.... I KNOW... the Miy'til fighters... and K-wings....


Ok so

majestic, Miy'til, K-wings.... Going to remember that...

I need a Frigate at least 1, and at least a couple corvettes if I can fit them... do the math later. See what space I have left....


Edit: with the Miy'til's can I have hte command Varient..... if I take a hit to "size"....


Also.... Liberator cruiser??? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator_Cruiser any estimate on size... they call it "diminuitive"....

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Silenceo
01.07.2015 , 01:37 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
MAYBE.. I will tempt fate and choose some Hapan craft.... I KNOW... the Miy'til fighters... and K-wings....


Ok so

majestic, Miy'til, K-wings.... Going to remember that...

I need a Frigate at least 1, and at least a couple corvettes if I can fit them... do the math later. See what space I have left....


Edit: with the Miy'til's can I have hte command Varient..... if I take a hit to "size"....
Well, at what level tech wise are the average Miy'til's? You could take a hit size wise by moving them to the next tier, but for a starting force I would not recommend it due to such limited forces.

Frankly, I do not think the hapan fighters are too bad. Mostly just their larger ships that can hold more than a squad of people. As for the K-Wing.... Called it...

Side Note: By epic stuff I mean all the advanced tech such as stealth for ships, additional troops training/schematics, and blue prints or some such for extra lethal ships such as an Executor. Gotta find a way to manage that. Otherwise people might try and make Dark Troopers on day 1. (I wish, it won't work people!)

After Thought: Examined the Miy'til star fighter briefly, and the command variant is a HUGE upgrade. That being said, the standard Miy I would likely classify as standard with no bonus or penalty, but the command variant likely pushing state of the art since it more than doubles its armament. Open to debate from all, of course.

Update: Not a clue on the Liberator, though judging by its armament and compliment, definitely larger than a Majectic. Perhaps it just means diminutive compared to its armament compared to others with similar load outs. That said, it most definitely is state of the art. It even says so!
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tunewalker
01.07.2015 , 01:40 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Silenceo View Post
Well, at what level tech wise are the average Miy'til's? You could take a hit size wise by moving them to the next tier, but for a starting force I would not recommend it due to such limited forces.

Frankly, I do not think the hapan fighters are too bad. Mostly just their larger ships that can hold more than a squad of people. As for the K-Wing.... Called it...

Side Note: By epic stuff I mean all the advanced tech such as stealth for ships, additional troops training/schematics, and blue prints or some such for extra lethal ships such as an Executor. Gotta find a way to manage that. Otherwise people might try and make Dark Troopers on day 1. (I wish, it won't work people!)

After Thought: Examined the Miy'til star fighter briefly, and the command variant is a HUGE upgrade. That being said, the standard Miy I would likely classify as standard with no bonus or penalty, but the command variant likely pushing state of the art since it more than doubles its armament. Open to debate from all, of course.
To the after thought... thats what I figured.. I will see, but it will depend on how much "space" i have left over... but I like the Miy'til's... I think they are going to work for the way I want it.


Edit: State of the Art.... everything . But "compared to its contemporaries" I would think would be around Imp Star destroyers. considering the time it was used. Considering its also a "cruiser" I would think it would be at least 800x600 or so.... before State of the Art is added.... maybe I will stay away from it just to make your life easier .

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Silenceo
01.07.2015 , 01:52 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
To the after thought... thats what I figured.. I will see, but it will depend on how much "space" i have left over... but I like the Miy'til's... I think they are going to work for the way I want it.


Edit: State of the Art.... everything . But "compared to its contemporaries" I would think would be around Imp Star destroyers. considering the time it was used. Considering its also a "cruiser" I would think it would be at least 800x600 or so.... before State of the Art is added.... maybe I will stay away from it just to make your life easier .
You and the Hapans.

While that means higher quality, it essentially means 20% less force which can be pivotal when first starting out. Hmm, with state of the art on the Liberator it comes out to 576,000. Do note that it would count as your flagship/destroyer. Though, I advise staying away from it since we do not have a length or width to start judging it on and since it is not a triangle, it would end up being ridiculously close to a ISD MK I in area used since triangles get that nifty formula that makes so that despite their length, they are narrow and have great strength. Another reason for the Empire to be proclaimed as EPIC!
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LadyKulvax
01.07.2015 , 02:11 AM | #25
The Math:

MC90 Star Cruiser = 380,000

Strike-class medium Cruiser = 40,500 × 2

Assault Frigate Mark I = 70,000 × 2

Nebulon-B2 Frigate = 37,397 × 3

Bothan Assault Cruiser = 55,250(Advanced) - 60,775 × 3

EF76 Nebulon-B Escort Frigate = 21,600 × 3

YT-2400 light Freighter = 531.525(Rounding up, 532)

YT-2000 light Freighter = 635

BTS-A2 Long-Range Strike Fighter/Bomber = 146 × 60

A/SF-01 B-Wing Starfighter = 49 × 120

T-65AC4 X-Wing Starfighter = 45 × 340

Total Area Used: 991,422.525
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Silenceo
01.07.2015 , 02:23 AM | #26
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Harrower-class Dreadnought = 280,000. × 3

1,000,000 - 280,000 × 3 = 160,000

Terminus-class Destroyer = 60,000. × 2

160,000 - 60,000 × 2 = 40,000

Fury-class Imperial Interceptor = 8,800. ×3

40,000 - 8,800 × 3 = 13,600

X -70B Phantom-class Prototype = 7,520. ×1

13,600 - 7,520 = 6080

Mark VI Supremacy Starfighter = 24. ×190

6080 - 4560 = 1520

B-28 Extinction-class bomber = 60. × 25

1520 - 1500 = 20

Total Area Used: 999,980
Interesting. How did you classify each tech wise? Also a little curious why so few fighter craft. *since Harrowers can carry so many I mean*

Other than that, size wise it all appears to be in order. Though the Terminus does bug me since it is called a Destroyer. They ain't never seen a REAL destroyer! Jokes aside, looks quite well put together.
"What I unveil today will mark a new era for the Empire. We will be able to decimate the Rebels just as we did the Jedi Knights. At last the Emperor's war will be filled only with the glory and beauty of decisive victory."―Rom Mohc Never force a droid to think without numbers...

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Selenial
01.07.2015 , 02:26 AM | #27
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The Fleet:
Three Harrower Dreadnoughts with medium complements, supported by two Terminus Destroyers, three Fury Interceptors and a Phantom-class Prototype.

The Math:
Harrower-class Dreadnought = 280,000. × 3

1,000,000 - 280,000 × 3 = 160,000

Terminus-class Destroyer = 60,000. × 2

160,000 - 60,000 × 2 = 40,000

Fury-class Imperial Interceptor = 8,800. ×3

40,000 - 8,800 × 3 = 13,600

X -70B Phantom-class Prototype = 7,520. ×1

13,600 - 7,520 = 6080

Mark VI Supremacy Starfighter = 24. ×190

6080 - 4560 = 1520

B-28 Extinction-class bomber = 60. × 25

1520 - 1500 = 20

Total Area Used: 999,980
Nice fleet, even nicer concept Sil!

Will work on mine after work.
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LadyKulvax
01.07.2015 , 02:27 AM | #28
I figured that the immense capabilities of the three Fury class ships augmented with a state-of-the-art stealth ship was worth the decrease.

EDIT: Sil, can I take Malgus' modified Harrowers over regular ones? probably OP but thought I would ask.
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Silenceo
01.07.2015 , 02:36 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
Nice fleet, even nicer concept Sil!

Will work on mine after work.
Thank you Sel.

I am glad everyone is enjoying fleet building so much considering that is only the beginning phase... Though, it is NOT ready to start yet as I said. Still got some details to work out such as research and tech advancement.


Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
I figured that the immense capabilities of the three Fury class ships augmented with a state-of-the-art stealth ship was worth the decrease.
I see, interesting indeed. Though, I was a bit flabbergasted by the numbers I got on that mock fleet I made on page one when I did star fighter numbers...

1 ISD MK II
4 Strike-class cruisers
10 tartans

With 59,000 left over. If I put that all into fighters, and a TIE Defender was classified as Advanced *since while they were great, there were star fighters with higher tech than they* I ended up getting 633.6999. And they all have hyperdrives... So it would be:

1 ISD MK II
4 Strikes
10 Tartans
633 TIE Defenders

With 65.168 left over. Not the most fearsome fleet, but that many TIE Defenders early on... Havoc there would be! Keeping in mind of course, that the "Overlord" can not make their own faction. Just manage NPC's...

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EDIT: Sil, can I take Malgus' modified Harrowers over regular ones? probably OP but thought I would ask.
Depends on what that entails, and it would require some shuffling of course. Currently they are classified as what? Standard so 0% change?
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Selenial
01.07.2015 , 02:39 AM | #30
Im confused why even take Harrowers at the moment, surely 4 Terminus's and a **** load of fighters...
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