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zaskar
11.06.2014 , 08:26 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by caederon View Post
Yeah, you're a real master of community building. Stuff your attitude into a burst laser and fire yourself into some other thread. See how far relentless negativity gets you there.

This isn't even my project, or guild, but I've flown with and against these guys enough to know that the server can and has produced competitive play and some very good pilots. The value add is that if you get more good pilots into a concentrated space, quality of play goes up. Or if you get people who want to learn in on the action, quality of play goes up. In this 'tiny' 'community', there may be people who want to try something different. Here's an option. Blasting someone for trying to organize some play is like stomping on your own foot.

- Despon
But he's not, he's guild recruiting with a blurb about how his guild flies sunday nights together and sometimes during the week. Thats not community building; it is snagging low hanging fruit from a sick and weak community tree.

Yes there are some good pilots, that can be said of every server. However the unwashed masses on BC are not there to play GSF at any serious level. They don't want this game as-is. They want to fly their ships around an open galaxy and take pot shots at the other faction. They don't want to act as a team member, they want to be the solo pilot that destroys the preverbal deathstar.

This is the same in the ground pvp on the server. Objectives and doing what is best for the team is never a thought, much less the required first thought to excel in team-based pvp. Why do you think so few people on BC can make it though hardmode pve content? We're not even gonna bring up the subject of nightmare modes.

The snowflake culture of the server is not commensurate to group content of any kind.

Oh, IMHO

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Baron_FireStorm
11.06.2014 , 08:49 PM | #12
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Yes there are some good pilots, that can be said of every server. However the unwashed masses on BC are not there to play GSF at any serious level. They don't want this game as-is. They want to fly their ships around an open galaxy and take pot shots at the other faction. They don't want to act as a team member, they want to be the solo pilot that destroys the preverbal deathstar.
You obviously dont know what the hell you are talking about. Spouting negative, false statements about the community here as a whole. We happen to be a very well organized and disciplined team here at Sith Praxium. I'd put our 12 best against anyone's 12 best and you can watch as your team gets destroyed by the definition of TEAMWORK. Go home Troll...you're drunk.
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caederon
11.06.2014 , 09:44 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by zaskar View Post
However the unwashed masses on BC are not there to play GSF at any serious level.
And which server's unwashed masses are there playing GSF at any serious level? I've played on BC and TEH extensively, Shadowlands, Bastion, JC and Harbinger. I've seen a lot of unwashed masses. Each server offers up its own unique buffet of frustrations and (occasional) delights. I've found plenty of bad attitudes abroad, but also people who are interested in playing the game better. I've personally helped many BC'ers who had an interest in becoming better pilots.

I have no comment on ground PvP, PvE ops, or anything but GSF since GSF is all I play. BC has plenty of skilled pilots and quality matches are far from impossible to find, especially if people are organizing specific nights when a number of those quality pilots will be on. What point is there in disparaging someone from trying to get more good pilots to show up so there can be competitive matches?

- Despon

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Ryuku-sama
11.06.2014 , 09:45 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Baron_FireStorm View Post
You obviously dont know what the hell you are talking about. Spouting negative, false statements about the community here as a whole. We happen to be a very well organized and disciplined team here at Sith Praxium. I'd put our 12 best against anyone's 12 best and you can watch as your team gets destroyed by the definition of TEAMWORK. Go home Troll...you're drunk.
He didn't talk about you andyour guildies. He talked about the server as a whole.

Honestly, with how many posts I saw about Bergeran baddies before most people stopped PUG'ing or just transfered to another server in this thread... I can kinda understand zaskar point. The number of trolls on your server forums also pushes his points further.
In fact, by going with general forum opinion, Bergeren is the worst PvE server and TOFN is the worst PvP server because of trolls.
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zaskar
11.06.2014 , 09:50 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Baron_FireStorm View Post
You obviously dont know what the hell you are talking about. Spouting negative, false statements about the community here as a whole. We happen to be a very well organized and disciplined team here at Sith Praxium. I'd put our 12 best against anyone's 12 best and you can watch as your team gets destroyed by the definition of TEAMWORK. Go home Troll...you're drunk.
Are you obtuse all the time? 12+ people in a single guild is a community? I have never said Sith Praxium is anything, I do however want to correct the mis-spelling of Praxium, it is "Praxeum" if you're going for lore correct made-up words.

If you want to put some substance behind that absolutely ridiculous statement that your guild is the best pilots in the world I'll offer this.

I'll back a team of 12 pilots for a best out of seven matches tournament, 10 million credits a pilot purse. You do the same, we find a neutral server and roll stock alts. You bring your 120m and chose the server. Your pilots all have to be members of your guild as of this post. You can't go picking up anyone because, you are already the best in the world after all.

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eedwana
11.06.2014 , 10:16 PM | #16
I dont see any problem with recruiting in the GSF forum for your GSF guild. I would think though the server recruitiment forum may be a better venue or even in a forum account signature.
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Ardaneb
11.06.2014 , 11:27 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by zaskar View Post
The confusion is pretty simple, that reads like a guild recruitment flyer. OMGWIII you fly together for a few hours on sundays! My heart just skipped a beat. No, really it did.

This is how you get people to come to your server and fly competitive games.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=774190

You know what the problem with BC is? Do you really want to know?

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caederon
11.07.2014 , 01:30 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Ryuku-sama View Post
He talked about the server as a whole.
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In fact, by going with general forum opinion, Bergeren is the worst PvE server and TOFN is the worst PvP server because of trolls.
Here's what I don't get with this line of reasoning, and Zaskar's incessant complaining and grandstanding... every server I have played on has a large population of players who perform really badly in matches. I've had people cop an attitude about getting simple tactical advice on every server I've played on at one time or another. This is not a server specific problem. Depending on time of day and who's around, any of the servers I play on can cough up a series of terrible matches that leave me questioning whether the pilots involved have any intention of learning to play the game.

The reason I fly the bulk of my matches on BC and Ebon Hawk is that I feel like I have a better chance of getting into a competitive match on those two servers than any of the others. It doesn't always happen, of course, but there's still a better chance of having decently skilled teams of pilots flying against each other there in my experience.

Zaskar, who were you on BC, and when did you play? I"ve logged lots of matches since starting around January. It would be great to have a frame of reference to determine where your BC hate came from.

- Despon

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Oldmanripper
11.07.2014 , 01:55 AM | #19
Yes, Zark, forums are used to convey information.
Yes, Zark, I conveyed information about GSF.
Yes, Zark, I conveyed information about my guild.
Yes, Zark, I invited anyone who wanted to keep coordinating via a voice chat program to our server for some fun matches.
No, Zark, I don't need to have a 12 v 12 best of 7 tournament to know I am a good pilot or that my people are skilled.
Yes, Zark, we would welcome having you over for a 12 on 12 match! We already have stock ships here that we fly regularly.
And Zark, the only pilot I ever had trouble fighting on our server was Klehitt / Whackycamel. That guy just had my number.
So, Zark, unless you are him, which I doubt since he was a down-to-earth player who always dispensed encouragement, then I haven't flown against you, Zark, and I am confident you haven't flown against us when we coordinate on Sundays.
Anyways, Zark, I cannot stop you from flaming this thread but I would like to thank you for keeping it at the top so people who legitimately care about the information inside it will keep seeing it since you keep bumping it up there.
Thanks, Zark, keep up the fine work.

-Oldmanripper
INHS Praxium CAG

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zaskar
11.07.2014 , 02:30 AM | #20
I just got to know, who the heck is Zark?