Seems Wildstar ain't faring as well as some said...

This happens to every single MMO in the history of ever except WoW. Even WoW though only has about a 20-25% retention rate...Remarkably this is approximately the same rate as SWTOR's. WoW just was in the right place at the right time with the right list of features to have a lot more players give it an initial try.

Which, incidentally, was the same time as SWG.
Yet, apparently the "awesomeness" that was SWG somehow didn't manage to survive.
I guess there must have been a sinister conspiracy that prevented such a perfect game from succeeding and led it a slow and painful death

Of course you are wasting your time trying to explain that to Edzew.
He's just going to pretend SWG was a success and the only reason it died was SWTOR. You can't have a rational discussion with people who just don't want to see the truth and would rather blame something marginally relevant instead.

SWG's Indoctrination program may have failed on most people, but boy, on those that it did succeed on it did an awesome job.

o don't be daft!

its kinda funny how you bioware yes men try and tear down and talk down anyone that dont think this game or other bioware games aren't all that great.


ive been playing landmark for a while now and i must say its one of the prettiest games i have seen so far, its also a LOT of fun... if you like exploring and building things. BUT you need a good computer to run it which means you will need a good computer to run EQNext. have also been playing archeage which reminds me a lot of SWG. these two games are the reason im leaving TOR. TOR could have been great!!! but it is just too limiting in every aspect of the game, the storys are a bit boring after the first chapters and it still feeling like a single player game B^( i had high hopes when they announced GSF and that's what initially brought me back, then it hit and i saw that it was just a crappy knock off copy of Star Conflict.. and when i was about to cancel they announced strongholds which was a huge let down once again.

Great

He'll be back.

oh please please please hold your breath!!!!!

This game is doing better than some others. As it is I remember specifically a lot of people claiming Wildstar would destroy this game and force it to shut down in months. They said its devs "cared" and would make sure a "disaster" like this game would never happen again. HOWEVER, despite stuff including "cross server at launch" and "40 man raids" in the end the devs have had to announce server mergers IN HALF THE TIME IT TOOK SWTOR TO GET TO THAT POINT. Say what you want about this game, its made mistakes, but its still fared pretty well despite what others may have you believe, and compared to the competitors.


To be fair I knew the Wildstar claims were full of crap when the games own devs claimed "one day a game will come along and beat WoW" and heavily implied it would be them.

just because WIldstar didn't wait till it was almost too late to merge server don't mean anything!!! TOR should have merged servers after the first month and a half after launch!! B^P and at least their deves listen to their players because they are going in and changing things up.

now they are but they are having to adapt and change away from the direction they wanted at launch. And I honestly do not know how long they will be able to keep up a sub only model, I know some people said how the devs claimed the game would shut down before going f2p lets hope for their sake they change their minds. I mean who knows how long that will be profitable with sub only. I can see them making a recovery but again my point is that the "swtor-killer" is going through something similar to us, and that at least we are doing better. from what I have gotten the game is still at a stable million and is s till making good money which means at least for the while we got some decent security to keep us through until 3.0. I know a few guys who have come back to level alts and get ready for 3.0 as with being a few months away they want to get back into the feel for things.