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Why is all the "Good Stuff" only attainable by spending real world Money?

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Why is all the "Good Stuff" only attainable by spending real world Money?

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RiVaN_
09.02.2014 , 05:49 PM | #11
Yes I know there are some things that are rare/random drops from Flash points and Ops, I have won some Mind traps, some Purple crystal formations, Holocrons, Emperor statues etc, so on and so forth.

Yes I know anything won, bought or crafted can be obtained on the GTN.
I get it.

For the sake of simplicity and to quickly bring the thread to the point I ask the following questions:

Why aren't there more decorations that are EARNED through achievements?
Why aren't more decorations EARNED by maxing out rep with an organization?
Why are the only trophies pictures?

In Short why aren't there desirable decorations that are EARNED?
It's great that some things can be crafted, awesome and congrats to all the wealthy crafters who are going to expand their fortunes! I really want to earn some of these decorations and not just as a random, rare drop.


The game already tracks our accomplishments, it makes sense that some type of housing decoration would have been created to "show off." I'm sorry, but the Pictures/trophies are dumb.

I spent weeks progressing Nightmare Kephas and all I got was this lousy picture...
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FlameYOL
09.02.2014 , 08:15 PM | #12
Agree,I Maxed Out The Dread Executors,I Should Have A Picture Of The Body Of The Dread Masters And Oricon's Decorations.
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MaximusRex
09.02.2014 , 11:44 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Surferket View Post
As a crafter I know the best decorations comes from Ops and such. Crafters get the **** stick as usual.
There are plenty of items from crafting that are great, and there are also plenty of drops that are great, and plenty of CM stuff that's great.

I feel like this is a thread about "I can't easily get those couple of things I want by my preferred method, so the whole system is crap".

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RiVaN_
09.03.2014 , 05:19 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximusRex View Post
There are plenty of items from crafting that are great, and there are also plenty of drops that are great, and plenty of CM stuff that's great.

I feel like this is a thread about "I can't easily get those couple of things I want by my preferred method, so the whole system is crap".
No, this is a thread about there not being decor items tied in to achievements and BW using strongholds as yet another Cash Grab for the cartel market.
The whole system is not crap, the drops are cool, the crafted stuff is nice and we all expected there to be items on the cartel market.

The problem I have is that pictures are crap, there needs to be something of substance available through achievements.

Maybe my original statement is correct, perhaps I am the only SWTOR player who thinks that BW could have made more tie in between strongholds and achievements.

Quote: Originally Posted by Surferket View Post
As a crafter I know the best decorations comes from Ops and such. Crafters get the **** stick as usual.
With most crafted items starting out around 100k to be purchased from the GTN I don't think that crafters are getting screwed. I think that Crafters have great potential to become very wealthy from stronghold decor.
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LeJarC
09.03.2014 , 10:21 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by RiVaN_ View Post
With most crafted items starting out around 100k to be purchased from the GTN I don't think that crafters are getting screwed. I think that Crafters have great potential to become very wealthy from stronghold decor.
So far, most of the decorations I see on GTN are either from packs, drops from flashpoints and the like and all of the basic things you can get from the individual vendors (which btw, also all can be gotten from CM in bundles/packs). Crafters can make no single decoration but only prefabs. And with those prefabs you can only buy basic decorations which are also already found in packs. So even though crafters did get a small boost in that prefabs can be made on a wide player-level range, the small part accessible through prefabs is also invaded by the CM
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ArcherOrant
09.03.2014 , 10:34 AM | #16
It all is opinion really. My favorite items so far have been crafted...probably why I have blown through so many materials lol.

Besides the cartel market items you can typically buy on the GTN after a day or two from release
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DawnAskham
09.03.2014 , 11:53 AM | #17
The only thing that still irks me are the basic items tied to CM Certificates, since certificates cannot be bought and sold on the GTN, so outside buying gamble packs and 'winning' a Certificate, one has to pray someone with a certificate will buy the item you want and put it up on the GTN for a reasonable price.

Interestingly enough, it seems nearly everyone with extra certificates went and bought NPCs, primarily the dancer, but also the jawas and other NPCs, as there are pages of them selling down sub 200K on my server.

Of course the items I want, such as the planters, haven't show up at all on the GTN, and a few I'd like to use multiples in decorating, such as the red basic rug, have only one posted and for more than a million credits.

They should either add another way to obtain these items, or remove the binding on the Certificates so they can be bought and sold on the GTN, with a happy medium going rate for a certificate established and an ability for people to obtain the items on the certificate vendor without buying packs.

Oh and I agree with the poster that the current 'trophies' for achievements are uninspiring. The pictures look bad to me, and not something I plan on using. I'd much prefer items that tied back to the boss or instance than the same square picture used over and over.

I also dislike the way HM FPs trophy decorations require killing all the bosses, including some of the bonus bosses (though not all), 25 times. Either you killed the boss or you didn't.

Trying the end boss 'trophy' to killing everything over and over just seems a bit silly and might be difficult for players that didn't run the HMs when they were current content as even with decorations, I still have groups in 55 HMs wanting to skip the bonus.

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ghoul_drool
09.03.2014 , 03:28 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by LeJarC View Post
So far, most of the decorations I see on GTN are either from packs, drops from flashpoints and the like and all of the basic things you can get from the individual vendors (which btw, also all can be gotten from CM in bundles/packs). Crafters can make no single decoration but only prefabs. And with those prefabs you can only buy basic decorations which are also already found in packs. So even though crafters did get a small boost in that prefabs can be made on a wide player-level range, the small part accessible through prefabs is also invaded by the CM
That's...not true at all. I don't know where you got that. Which decorations that can be bought with prefabs overlap with the CM stuff? They're all different.

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RiVaN_
09.03.2014 , 06:08 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by ArcherOrant View Post
It all is opinion really. My favorite items so far have been crafted...probably why I have blown through so many materials lol
All of my favorite decorations so far are also the ones bought with Prefabs as well. Except that Jedi Data Cube from the Forged Alliances Part 1 vendor. That thing is damn cool.

I'm not saying I don't like any of the ones out there, I like a lot of them, I just wish more were tied into Legacy, Achievements and accomplishments and fewer were cartel market only.
The only Big Cantina bar is a cartel market item and goes for 6 million on my server... Ain't no way I'm paying that much for a decoration.
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Pietrastor
09.03.2014 , 07:11 PM | #20
The most desired decos right now are Ops & FPs drops, fleet comm decos, starships, reputation/event tokens decos (allows to bypass reputation/event tokens requirement). Prefabs and basic crafted decorations are also popular and have reached consistient prices, esp now that many players have drained their pre-stacked mats resources. Cartel is not really a big factor on the decorations market (yet). Jukebox and Underworld Bar are like the only super-hot Cartel items