SW:TOR will experience the first ever overnight ecomonic crash of an MMO.

This isn't an alternative to competitive sports. This is an alternative to going to see a movie.

Those are your words, not mine. Stop attributing them to me. "Casual" is not a bad thing, it's a common thing. This is a casual game.

I have plenty good to say. And yes, this will certainly inspire some guilds, not others.

I didn't ask and I don't care...especially about w0w.

This is a video game, not competitive sports. SWTOR is a casual friendly game, 50 million credits isn't casual.

And thats why I will buy some really cheap stuffs to selle them next year!

Well I mostly agree with the OP, but remind that a new expansion is at door and they HAVE to do this uber credit sink before it comes out. This is why I think the next expansion will be more bigger than the Makeb one...

I understand, I get a chubby from TUX's posts too.

See the issue is and even your followers disagreed with you is that you keep saying "majority" "many" well the truth is the "majority" "many" don't feel the same burden you do. Smaller guilds have already proven that 50mill credits is a very achievable goal. And having someone with your reputation continue to spam the forums stating it's an impossible task is only hurting the game and future players? is that what you are trying to accomplish?

As for the sports team analogy I'm not comparing sports with video games I was comparing being on a team and a guild that both have goals that they are striving to accomplish.

I think its a grossly over rated sense of self worth personally.

Did I say that?

Nope, I didn't.

What it does mean, is that for a credit sink to be effective over time it needs to be a repeat credit sink. This will only take some creds out for the moment and people will have gained them back quick enough.

Now, I do not know if the housing itself will be a credit sink as other suggest. I read there were actually very few decorations that can be bought with credits.

So all in all I don't think this is really a good credit sink as far as credit sinks go and therefore I don't believe it will have the effect the OP is talking about.

True... if you rely on one person doing it all, then it's a completely unreasonable amount. However it's content targeted exclusively to guilds and thereby also balanced around being something that requires work from multiple people. My own guild managed to grind this money in less than a week, and we're not a big(or even medium) guild (roughly 30, of which approx 15 logs in regulary) and we're a casual guild. While 50 million is easily percieved as loads of money, for 10-15 players working together to accumulate it, it really isn't that much.

The content is still optional. Operations, flashpoints and pvp will still continue to be developed without requiring you do participate in the Guildship/Conquest feature, much like it is with GSF. Should the price the price end up being varified as too high, Bioware will undoubtably lower it. However I doubt Bioware has just randomly guessed at 50 millions being an accurate estimate, rather than having several matrices of average player income/guild bank content and the like, to support this perticular price-tag as realistic. Time will tell, but it's still my honest opinion that people who've been opposed to this pricetag are basing their concerns on a overly low expectation of the average player income and/or guild size. Some will definately require more time to gather the money than others, but for most guilds we are really talking about weeks rather than months to gather 50 million.

Have to comment on this. Over the last year SWTOR has gotten 3 entirely new features added to the game in: Arena, Galactic star fighter and Tactical flashpoints - aswell as having released an entirely new tier of raiding content with 2 new operations. Comparatively, World of Warcraft has in the same period: released a new raiding tier. SWTOR is not content-starved. We are, if anything, getting new content and features at an astounding pace (Most likely attributable to the succes of the Cartel market, and the massive income it generates)

Time will tell if its "many" being barred from it or just "few". That we could properly argue to our heads turn blue, until we actually see some results from the "live" version.

Having pricetag that has a level to it, where your guild is actually required to put some collective work into the game to achieve access, is a point I'd get behind though. Far too much of this game, and most other MMOs, caters to a single-player gamestyle. Even flashpoints and operations have become single-player centric experiences with the addition of "group-finder", in the sense that you can, not only, simply cue for yourself -> have minimal interaction with the ones you're matched with -> focus exclusively on fullfilling your role -> get loot/xp -> go on about your own game again. Not only can you do this. This is actually rather the norm of interaction within the game these days, rarely broken off by other things than someone ridiculing others for making mistakes/being slow etc. Guilds are a different experience from that (hopefully for most), a place that can remind you that this a social experience to play this game and MMOs in general. Guildships is a feature, that with its pricetag and the conquest elements, brings back more gameplay thats focussed on getting collective achievements, rather than personal. The pricetag, imo, signifies this as it near impossible for single (average/casual) players to get that kind of money together (and be willing to part with it again), whereas it is achievable with a collective effort of a group of people. So I will content that the pricetag is not only pretty good and achievable for most guilds, it's actually also beneficial for the game in the long run to get this emphasis back on collective achievement rather than personal.

Are you serius? Two ops in a year and Arena that in PvE server is impossible for you is good?
A GFS that no one care now (there is no link to your main character so no one is playing anymore)
Some useless tactical flashpoint that no one cares because there are no usefull loot, so is boiring doing them after the first try.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah hope you are not serius, really.

A very constructive and useful approach to debating, thanks for your input.