So what do we get in return for all the hard work on Guild Ships?

I beat you, my interest is gone. Smaller guilds just lost. ill save the few credits we were able to pull together and put it towards a guild stronghold.

I am very disappointed, had hoped it would be fair across the board, small guilds wont stand a chance when the super guilds hit. It will be the same 10 guilds in the top ten ALL THE TIME.

Oh and for those who say "gee that is a defeatist attitude", or "your guild sux" etc, just keep it to your self dont need your elitist attitude or you running your mouth, you wanted the price so high that only the "BEST" guilds can compete. well enjoy your ever shrinking small pod.

When will Bioware invest in a guild recruitment system? so smaller guilds can start to grow and not be shut out?

I guess never

Well that expense ONLY the big guilds can afford.

i have heard all the comebacks from everyone, lets see there was "you have had time to save", or "your guild sux if they cant help you" , or my favorite " if you and your guild had dedication, your guild no matter the size can save 50 million in a matter of weeks".

well we have lives outside of the game and dont live in moms basement. so i can do maybe 1 op per day or maybe 2 FP's, or 2 - 3 dailies before i have to go do things in real life. we can not save 50 million, we got to about 20 million and everyone said enough and lost interest.

well we have lives outside of the game and dont live in moms basement. so i can do maybe 1 op per day or maybe 2 FP's, or 2 - 3 dailies before i have to go do things in real life. we can not save 50 million, we got to about 20 million and everyone said enough and lost interest.

I am not sure if what I an going to suggest will resolve all the concerns for small guilds but here is one idea for Bioware to think about.

What would be the con of having a point system for a guild reward for all guilds to reach and then if you are in the top X your guild will receive an additional reward or larger one.

For Example:
The current personal conquest goal is 35,000 points and the guild rewards for the top 10 guilds are 10 Jawa Junk,1 Gathering Lockbox, 50K credit certificate, and 1 encryption plan

So set the guild goal to 350,000 points (that is 10 people at 35,000). Then if the guild earn that many points give them the above rewards. If they finish in the top x (say 10 for this example) , then they get an addition 5 Jawa junk, another 50K Credit Certificate and additional encryption plan. (this can be modified if many ways).

By doing this all guilds have a chance of getting some kind of rewards for investing their time into the game and the guilds have some bragging rights to shoot for.

• I have a life outside the game, including (but not limited to) a wife and two children.
• I own my own house (well, with my wife) and have not lived in my Mom's basement in over 25 years.
• When I log in, which is not every night, I do at most 1 op, 2 FP's or 2 -3 dailies before I have to go.
• I have 25 million credits, and at least that much in goods I can sell on the GTN.

Attitude's like yours are more than a bit offensive. You're basically saying "Well since I haven't been willing/able to do it, it's not possible unless you're a nolife loser." Not only is that wrong, it's fairly insulting, and you need to get over it.

In real life, you can be stuck in abject poverty with little to no way out. In a game like this, if you are poor, it's because you choose to be poor. Literally. Unlike in real life, I can make money in game out of thin air by simply playing the game. I can save money by simply not spending it. It's not a difficult concept.

I'm not belittling the 50 million credit price tag for a guild flag ship. It's expensive. Despite large donations by a few members like myself, and a lot of smaller donations by poorer players, my small-ish guild will have to stretch to get a guild ship. Ours will not have all the rooms unlocked any time in the forseable future, and we will likely not be competitive in conquests, but we will be able to participate. We'll also have fun with it. For us, getting the ship will be an accomplishment, and I think that's a good thing.

Everything in life is a tradeoff, and this is no exception. There are advantages and disadvantages to being in a small, casual guild. To get the one, I accept the other. This is no different. If you insist that getting a guild ship with all of the unlocks on day 1 is a key to your happiness, then get into a large guild. If you prefer to stay in a small casual guild, accept the limitations that come with it.

Your Post has a lot of Bs in it. I don't know what kind of job you have, and don't much care. When i had a LOT MORE of a LIFE. I sure as hell as didn't have time to play this this game as much as you do. And usually never played this game, and that was with 1 kid at the time.


With my Loved ones gone now with exception of my Mother and Father, as of right now all 3 of us are on Retirement/Disability. And Boys and Girls, in Real Life I never ever have time for this game right now. Because most of us are to sick and disabled to even get to the damm Computer son. When i had a Real life not so long ago
I did Computers, Electrical, Construction, Automobile repair, done some Plumbing of course and have been around the Military all My Life. Since I was a baby.

When i had a better life I did 12 or more hours of work and didn't usually stop, going over 12hrs a day until the job was done, or we stopped because our Pain pills no longer worked. Also i had about 7 families to think about and loved and cherished. And with Family, Loved ones and my Jobs, the only thing i did when I got home was go straight to bed, or take a shower and take care of my ladies needs most nights.

What's this Bs of Ppl that are poor, because they choose to be???

BOY, i've done things that are so damm Classified, it would make you soil ur pants.

Agreed 100%, those who say we are poor because we chose too are so full of it that they better check their underwears. Real life take precedent over a game and there are times we dont have enough hours in a day to do all the things you need to do at home.

Your Post has a lot of Bs in it. I don't know what kind of job you have, and don't much care. When i had a LOT MORE of a LIFE. I sure as hell as didn't have time to play this this game as much as you do. And usually never played this game, and that was with 1 kid at the time.

Ppl like me with Real Life issues can't play for some stupid House that's useless along with a Ship.

With my Loved ones gone now with exception of my Mother and Father, as of right now all 3 of us are on Retirement/Disability. And Boys and Girls, in Real Life I never ever have time for this game right now. Because most of us are to sick and disabled to even get to the damm Computer son. When i had a Real life not so long ago
I did Computers, Electrical, Construction, Automobile repair, done some Plumbing of course and have been around the Military all My Life. Since I was a baby.

When i had a better life I did 12 or more hours of work and didn't usually stop, going over 12hrs a day until the job was done, or we stopped because our Pain pills no longer worked. Also i had about 7 families to think about and loved and cherished. And with Family, Loved ones and my Jobs, the only thing i did when I got home was go straight to bed, or take a shower and take care of my ladies needs most nights.

What's this Bs of Ppl that are poor, because they choose to be???

BOY, i've been around so many Classified stuff, it would soil ur pants.

Just curious...

What do we get in return for all the hard work on Guild Ships?

I mean, we have to dump 50m credits to open it, to be able to run dailies... ok got it. It is kind of like and expansion in that way.

So, can someone please enumerate the benefits we get for our players/guild for such a huge investment?