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OK this is getting rather silly regarding hard mode Flashpoint GF

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OK this is getting rather silly regarding hard mode Flashpoint GF

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Halinalle
07.15.2014 , 09:58 PM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
no it takes a while, when you take a 15 minute debuff from quitting a group. and yes, sometimes waiting out that debuff is preferably to staying in your current group.
You can always ask for a kick. But here is our next problem: healer and dps doesn't want to kick tank because they want to complete FP.

Unfortunately only way to get kicked as a tank requires really bad behaviour: stop moving and refuse to tank.

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Liquor
07.15.2014 , 11:55 PM | #272
Um did I miss something or is it not a Troll OP???

55 geared and companion geared can solo FPHM when you know what you're doing. I can't count how many times I've done Cademinu HM alone. Right at start of final boss everyone got a bad knock back into rockets and I face tank on Vette in 162 gear my Operative Healer. 180 min/max it's not even HM anymore. So why GF it? Grab some friends and Q

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slafko
07.16.2014 , 12:37 AM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by Drake_Hound View Post
No am not joking, cause basically it is what the future going to be, unless people decide to really cooperate.
They can go raiding for the more close needed heriachy, but the average customer.
Has no need for those, they just want the rewards.
Why bother with Ultimate comms then? Let's just shower tactical flashpoints with end-game token drops and be done with it.
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slafko
07.16.2014 , 12:41 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by ValeGreiger View Post
Seriously, the longest I've ever waited for a queue was 10mins. I was playing at some wee hour of the night (like 4am) and yet I still managed to find a group. So if a healer wants to kick me because I won't put guard on him, that's his/her loss, because AFAIK, that group's gonna be waiting a looooong time through GF, while I get a new group that hopefully has a more sensible healer in a very short amount of time. That's why I'm not afraid of getting kicked
That's why I ask to be kicked and enourage people to kick me when their playstyle becomes unbearable.
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slafko
07.16.2014 , 12:48 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
As a tank, it annoys me to no end that a DPS barges ahead of me and I have to waste an AoE taunt, just because he needs to display he's über awesome all around, to people he doesn't even know most likely.
You're doing it wrong. The First rule of tanking is "You pull it, you tank it". If they can pull it, they can tank it. I only bother with AoE taunt if the jump monkey gets killed. He got what he was asking for but then it's my duty as tank to cover the rest of the team.

Recently I've started ignoring my kill order too. I mean, when I see the dps unleash on the strongest mob leaving the five trash ranged guys to aggro the healer, I'm going for those weak dudes and leaving the dps to fend for themselves. My priority is keeping the healer alive and since the dps are doing my job of tanking the strongest mob, I have to do theirs and clear the trash and stragglers.

No explanations, no "please follow kill order", no nothin'. They'll either learn by themselves or get killed in the process. Which is also a learning experience.
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Lord_of_Mu
07.16.2014 , 01:02 AM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko View Post
You're doing it wrong. The First rule of tanking is "You pull it, you tank it". If they can pull it, they can tank it. I only bother with AoE taunt if the jump monkey gets killed. He got what he was asking for but then it's my duty as tank to cover the rest of the team.

Recently I've started ignoring my kill order too. I mean, when I see the dps unleash on the strongest mob leaving the five trash ranged guys to aggro the healer, I'm going for those weak dudes and leaving the dps to fend for themselves. My priority is keeping the healer alive and since the dps are doing my job of tanking the strongest mob, I have to do theirs and clear the trash and stragglers.

No explanations, no "please follow kill order", no nothin'. They'll either learn by themselves or get killed in the process. Which is also a learning experience.
It's starting to happen. The bitterness is sinking in. Soon you'll be finding creative ways to kill the dps for no reason other than because you can.

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Jandi
07.16.2014 , 01:07 AM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_of_Mu View Post
It's starting to happen. The bitterness is sinking in. Soon you'll be finding creative ways to kill the dps for no reason other than because you can.
Assassin/Shadow tank is the best for this. Can just cloak mid-fight and laugh. :P

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AshlaBoga
07.16.2014 , 01:22 AM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
Assassin/Shadow tank is the best for this. Can just cloak mid-fight and laugh. :P
Oh man, I remember a run where I was tanking where the healer (who really prefers to dps) decided to refuse to heal our Mara dps just because he'd said he was 40 instead of 39. So throughout the entire HM FE the Mara had to try and take no damage during boss fights. They're good friends irl so it was more buddies being silly than anything else, but it was funny.
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Lord_of_Mu
07.16.2014 , 01:23 AM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Jandi View Post
Assassin/Shadow tank is the best for this. Can just cloak mid-fight and laugh. :P
Once saw a shadow try something like that. Didn't work out so well for him either.

Anyway, I think we've seen quite a few posts that point towards to root of the issue. Some tanks don't like the gear challenges, others don't find their class to be as fun because of a lack of huge numbers. But largely it's because of the attitudes and behavior of so many players in the community.

A successful team isn't based on the size of your ego. It's based on your ability to work with a complete stranger for 20 to 30 minutes. Any action that makes their job easier will make the run far more smoother.

Initiating combat before the tank, breaking CC and not using your own threat reduction abilities aren't going to win you any friends. So, if you want to reduce queue times. Put your ego away, cool your attitude and use your brain.

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slafko
07.16.2014 , 01:24 AM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_of_Mu View Post
It's starting to happen. The bitterness is sinking in. Soon you'll be finding creative ways to kill the dps for no reason other than because you can.
Oh, I'm *way* ahead of you there. I wiped a group of three guildies that were annoying me through entire Cademimu HM. It's usually a bad idea to annoy me and this is especially true when I'm tanking.

Ortol at 10%, three rockets firing and we have to move diagonally to the empty one. Force Speed ahead, single taunt for good measure, stop at middle with my back to the empty rocket. The team is catching up and they're behind Ortol. BAM! Ortol uses his AoE pushback. I end up safely where I need to be, annoying *****s are pushed back into the rocket and get burned alive by the flames.

Finished Ortol by myself, got my comms, added all three of them on ignore and left them dead. gg
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