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Jeweledleah

07.15.2014 , 12:11 AM \| #221	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by WillCaedes As a tank, I shall maintain my right to choose when and where I queue as a tank. For nearly two years I queued into HM FPs and pugged multiple raids as a tank. NEVER again. Why? Stupidity. DPS believing they are tanks. Sorc Healers thinking "Static Bubble" is actually a heal. DPS being idiots. DPS running ahead and pulling an extra group. Healers going AFK. Healers not being geared properly. DPS not being geared properly. DPS not knowing which stims are meant for their class. Bioware not rewarding my patience with those people enough. Bioware giving me alarcity and accuracy mods on my starting raid gear. Bioware confusing newbie tanks by giving them ****, improperly stated base FP/raid gear. Bioware forcing me to sit through 45 minutes of cutscene everytime I'm "Lucky" enough to get Black Talon. DPS not spacebarring on Black Talon HM. (Don't use the "Never seen it before Line, its HM for christsake.) Healers not spacebarring on Black Talon HM. (See above). Being told by DPS (who have run ahead, pulled multiple groups etc) how to do my job as a tank, when I've been tanking longer than they've been playing most likely. So yeah.... I'd say fix it, but I doubt its possible. Those are the reasons I typically refrain from entering group finder queue these days as a tank. ummm... static bubble is a heal. as in... it prevents you from taking a certain amount of damage, effectively increasing your health. its not the only heal, naturally, but its one of the more effective abilities sorc healers have. I have seen it prevent as much damage as crit heal from dark infusion, except dark infusion has a long cast and doesn't always crit. don't underestimate the awesome of sorc bubbles. on a priority of sorc healing - they are at the top, followed by resurgence and innervate. in that order. as for spacebar? umm... relax and consider how many things could be worse? its only a few extra minutes (and yes I spacebar, but I don't have a problem with people who don't - becasue its such a minor thing. I'd rather take someone who doesn't spacebar but is otherwise a team player, versus gogogo spacebar heroes that make my life a living hell)

slafko

07.15.2014 , 12:17 AM \| #222	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Halinalle It's not because tanking is hard... It's actually the easiest role if you think about it... in competent group. Followed by heals. DPS is actually the most difficult role to play correctly. Stop trollin' pls.
I see their R2 droid and I grab it. No, you can't have it back, silly rabbit!

AshlaBoga

07.15.2014 , 12:21 AM \| #223	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko Stop trollin' pls. Well in an Operation a lot of the challenge is the dps check, NiM Dread Guard pre both nerfs was the biggest dps check ever in SWTOR, and even after the first nerf it was still a decent dps check compared to some of the other NiM content. I'm sure if you made a list of the NiM EC/TFB/S&V/DF/DP dps and heal checks there'd be more dps ones.
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Jeweledleah

07.15.2014 , 12:22 AM \| #224	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko Stop trollin' pls. I actualy agree with them. at least from personal experience, I'd rather heal an operation, or tank it - then dps it. especially on hardmode/nightmare. you have to worry about interrupts, switching targets, switching positions, start dps, stop dps, make sure your output is high, while not standing in crap and not dpsing past the point you should. there is a LOT to worry about as a dps in harder end game content. meanwhile, for all the pressure I have on me as a healer - its nowhere NEAR that much - again from personal experience. tanks come close in complexity. its probably give or take, depending on a fight.

slafko

07.15.2014 , 12:23 AM \| #225	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz I have nothing against promoting tanking, just stating that it would be unfair to certain classes. Those classes can either live with the fact that the tank is getting a bigger end reward or use the hour-long queue times waiting for a tank to meditate on the Force. I don't know about you but I'd rather get a faster GF pop and do the flashpoint in a timely manner even if it means getting less loot than a tank than stare at the ceiling for hours on end only to get the pop when I go poop.
I see their R2 droid and I grab it. No, you can't have it back, silly rabbit!

slafko

07.15.2014 , 12:31 AM \| #226	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by mikebevo You're not using target of target as a tank? Hell I use it on everything, but I can't imagine being able to tank without target of target up. I only started using it three weeks ago when I got my tank a cosmetic makeover. She's so pretty now I had to have another picture of her floating about. <3
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Lord_of_Mu

07.15.2014 , 12:35 AM \| #227	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah ummm... static bubble is a heal. as in... it prevents you from taking a certain amount of damage, effectively increasing your health. its not the only heal, naturally, but its one of the more effective abilities sorc healers have. I have seen it prevent as much damage as crit heal from dark infusion, except dark infusion has a long cast and doesn't always crit. don't underestimate the awesome of sorc bubbles. on a priority of sorc healing - they are at the top, followed by resurgence and innervate. in that order. as for spacebar? umm... relax and consider how many things could be worse? its only a few extra minutes (and yes I spacebar, but I don't have a problem with people who don't - becasue its such a minor thing. I'd rather take someone who doesn't spacebar but is otherwise a team player, versus gogogo spacebar heroes that make my life a living hell) I was actually going to say something along those lines heh.

BuriDogshin

07.15.2014 , 01:13 AM \| #228	Quote
Had some more HM FP fun tonight with my wife's Sage heal and my Sage DPS. Gawd I hate those shackles on Cadimemu. lol. But, got a great tank twice. Third time, got a just-started-tanking Shadow tank for CZ Corp Labs, a bit undergeared (153) and new to the Op, but once we knew that we completed it with minimal tanking problems - partly because of the awesome GS that was with us, which allowed me to off-heal a little, partly because we knew what to expect. Once we got past the droid in the electric pool, no tanking issues. I think the Shadow started to get in the groove as we progressed. I hope he or she had fun, so we may meet again.
Going Preferred January 31, 2015.

BuriDogshin

07.15.2014 , 01:22 AM \| #229	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah ummm... static bubble is a heal. as in... it prevents you from taking a certain amount of damage, effectively increasing your health. ... I have seen it prevent as much damage as crit heal from dark infusion, except dark infusion has a long cast and doesn't always crit. don't underestimate the awesome of sorc bubbles. on a priority of sorc healing - they are at the top, followed by resurgence and innervate. in that order. Agreed. And they are instant (and therefore can be cast on the run) and can be spam'd, in advance, across multiple targets, although that can drain your force pretty fast. My 180/186 geared Sorc's bubbles does around 6500 in post-mitigation damage elimination. It's especially great when there is predictable raid-wide damage. IME Tanks should be bubbled whenever the bubble's debuff wears off, it will almost always get used. And there is no risk of over-healing when you bubble someone (in a multi-healer situation) since the debuff prevents anyone giving the tank another bubble before it is likely to have been fully used. Non-tanks should be bubbled as the situation warrants: bubbling a known agro-whore right before the fight starts can be pretty effective.
Going Preferred January 31, 2015.

thewitchdoctor

07.15.2014 , 01:45 AM \| #230	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by slafko Stop trollin' pls. (S)he did specify in a competent group, though. Granted, my experience (from most to least) is DPS, tank, heals, but when I do tank, if the DPS are doing their job, and the healer is doing his or her job, then mine is that much easier.
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