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Tomb of Sorrows Going for Server 1st NiM DF Brontes Kill

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Tomb of Sorrows Going for Server 1st NiM DF Brontes Kill

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ZooMzy
06.25.2014 , 11:59 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Mevarek View Post
Mevarek, conquerer of the dread fortress.
Wish I could get carried through ops.

And yeah, our biggest problem is going to be executing the set plan for the six finger phase as the weakness of my raid team has always been in regards to have a set plan and sticking to it, over fights where adaptability can make up for mechanics. So, I'd assume my team would need to spend at least an hour of practice in that area of the fight in particular as it is our weakness, and then the rest would be easier in comparison.

But again, I don't know why I bother with you. You're just some average DPS who server transferred and made some connections with other guilds, you don't know how to lead or develop raiders in the slightest.

Congrats on your title that means nothing here, btw.

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raidmac
06.26.2014 , 12:04 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Wish I could get carried through ops.

And yeah, our biggest problem is going to be executing the set plan for the six finger phase as the weakness of my raid team has always been in regards to have a set plan and sticking to it, over fights where adaptability can make up for mechanics. So, I'd assume my team would need to spend at least an hour of practice in that area of the fight in particular as it is our weakness, and then the rest would be easier in comparison.

But again, I don't know why I bother with you. You're just some average DPS who server transferred and made some connections with other guilds, you don't know how to lead or develop raiders in the slightest.

Congrats on your title that means nothing here, btw.
LOL, you cant get carried through NiM Brontes pre nerf. gg
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twotilmidnite
06.26.2014 , 01:47 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
And yeah, our biggest problem is going to be executing the set plan for the six finger phase as the weakness of my raid team has always been in regards to have a set plan and sticking to it\
Don't speak for your ENTIRE raid team *nudgenudge*
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Mevarek
06.26.2014 , 01:56 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Wish I could get carried through ops.

And yeah, our biggest problem is going to be executing the set plan for the six finger phase as the weakness of my raid team has always been in regards to have a set plan and sticking to it, over fights where adaptability can make up for mechanics. So, I'd assume my team would need to spend at least an hour of practice in that area of the fight in particular as it is our weakness, and then the rest would be easier in comparison.

But again, I don't know why I bother with you. You're just some average DPS who server transferred and made some connections with other guilds, you don't know how to lead or develop raiders in the slightest.

Congrats on your title that means nothing here, btw.
Just wanted to say, we already argued about this and you said that I didn't get carried and that I had connections. Even then, after I left pot5, I still had the exact same harbinger connections that you had, none. I went through the regular application/tryout process that any other dps who wanted to join Zorz would have gone through. Also, you're right, I don't know how to develop or lead raiders, which is why I don't do it.
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06.26.2014 , 01:57 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by raidmac View Post
LOL, you cant get carried through NiM Brontes pre nerf. gg
<3 you thoar
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raidmac
06.26.2014 , 02:03 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Mevarek View Post
Just wanted to say, we already argued about this and you said that I didn't get carried and that I had connections. Even then, after I left pot5, I still had the exact same harbinger connections that you had, none. I went through the regular application/tryout process that any other dps who wanted to join Zorz would have gone through. Also, you're right, I don't know how to develop or lead raiders, which is why I don't do it.
You wound me. Acting like you dont know me. ppfttt. Zorz only takes players who are in the top 5% of the game, so that puts you in the top 5%!. Dont worry Mev, I dont think Zu knows how to develop raiders either. He's been trying to do PvE content for how long now?

I just like how Zu keeps underestimating the last phase.
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ZooMzy
06.26.2014 , 08:44 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Mevarek View Post
Just wanted to say, we already argued about this and you said that I didn't get carried and that I had connections. Even then, after I left pot5, I still had the exact same harbinger connections that you had, none. I went through the regular application/tryout process that any other dps who wanted to join Zorz would have gone through. Also, you're right, I don't know how to develop or lead raiders, which is why I don't do it.
Then stop typing as if you do.

We have been over this before, and I find it funny you would actually decide to post a comment as if you're ability to get pulled and carried through an operation somehow makes you capable of being able to determine what is logical and what isn't.

And lol Thor, sure you can. You can get pulled through and carried no problem if all you're doing is a role you're being told to do, funny how following commands of others and competency actually doesn't prove your understanding of a fight as much as you think it does.

Kind of like when AG carried me through Hateful. It was nice being on the other end, but I guess your lack of a retort proves just how little of a gap there actually is between yourself and the other good players on BC like myself.

Like I told Mev, all you are in difference to me is that you have friends who are better raiders, probably even a weaker raid leader and DPSer than I am. Remember that the next time you come back here, getting all worked up because your advice and opinion isn't as important as you think it is.

And lol, part of the reason why burn phase is so difficult is because of damage output from Brontes. Sorry buddy, but the fight has been nerfed pretty hard, mechanics and healing aren't going to be as difficult as the main check was, it's all about whether or not the DPS are going to be able to hit their numbers.

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Mevarek
06.26.2014 , 10:15 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
Then stop typing as if you do.

We have been over this before, and I find it funny you would actually decide to post a comment as if you're ability to get pulled and carried through an operation somehow makes you capable of being able to determine what is logical and what isn't.

And lol Thor, sure you can. You can get pulled through and carried no problem if all you're doing is a role you're being told to do, funny how following commands of others and competency actually doesn't prove your understanding of a fight as much as you think it does.

Kind of like when AG carried me through Hateful. It was nice being on the other end, but I guess your lack of a retort proves just how little of a gap there actually is between yourself and the other good players on BC like myself.

Like I told Mev, all you are in difference to me is that you have friends who are better raiders, probably even a weaker raid leader and DPSer than I am. Remember that the next time you come back here, getting all worked up because your advice and opinion isn't as important as you think it is.

And lol, part of the reason why burn phase is so difficult is because of damage output from Brontes. Sorry buddy, but the fight has been nerfed pretty hard, mechanics and healing aren't going to be as difficult as the main check was, it's all about whether or not the DPS are going to be able to hit their numbers.
First of all, you were able to clear hateful entity with AG because their abundance of gear compensated for your lack of gear. Secondly, you yourself have said that we weren't arguing about whether I got carried, but that I had more and better connections, which I have negated prior to this post. Thirdly, your group was unable to down 10/10 in HM before 78 was craftable. I would say that there is clearly a lack of development there, if your dps, healers, or tanks were unable to rise to the challenge of a hard mode operation.
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ZooMzy
06.26.2014 , 11:12 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Mevarek View Post
First of all, you were able to clear hateful entity with AG because their abundance of gear compensated for your lack of gear. Secondly, you yourself have said that we weren't arguing about whether I got carried, but that I had more and better connections, which I have negated prior to this post. Thirdly, your group was unable to down 10/10 in HM before 78 was craftable. I would say that there is clearly a lack of development there, if your dps, healers, or tanks were unable to rise to the challenge of a hard mode operation.
First of all, lol. Lack of gear is your best excuse for not being a viable player? Why don't you actually take a look at the stats that matter as a DPS, aka, "DPS" and "DTPS" (Damage Taken Per Second)?

Oh wait, you don't want to look at those numbers because despite said gear inadequacies, Thor was barely able to come out on top with his fully min maxed, Dread Forged geared Sniper to an undergeared, unoptimized, no set bonus Deception assassin. I mean really, NiM level raider with extensive experience in that fight doing an even battle in DPS with someone who had never been in the fight before nor had the min maxed stats of BiS and at the same time, was playing the arguably weakest DPS spec in the entire game for PvE? Ok, let's talk about Thor's arrogance if he follows your pattern of thought where his ignorance can be justified only because he was barely able to beat out another on multiple handicaps.

Secondly, yeah, you have gotten better connections. You have not built a raid team, nor have you put yourself in a position to lead one. All you have done is transfer servers, been competent enough to follow orders and commands, and now have some achievements because your friends were good enough to clear the content. So congrats again on your title clear, but if you're going to post ignorance and try to back it up with only achievements, then be ready to get stomped on. Because unless you've actually led a raid team to clear any content or done anything that signifies capability in understanding mechanics such as backing your nonsense up with logic instead of "I've downed it before", gg.

Finally, lol? I ran with CS during the time you seem so fondly to remember (maybe it was because you didn't like imperial second Dreadful Entity to casuals?), not ToS who is a new guild. In terms of raid accomplishments, CS was the biggest waste of my time. I raided with them more out of casual fun more than anything, I only moved to ToS after they started attempting to get more competitive and didn't like what that sort of environment that tough content presented.

Then, after joining up with ToS, we cleared HM DF and DP within a matter of 3 nights each in both operations. So before you start attempting to trash talk, you might want to take a look at the person you're attempting to argue with and realize your self created opinion of them actually isn't what is happening in the virtual world.

You know, I used to think that the reason why HM heroes would never touch NiM content was because that sort of content required at least an even mix of both skill and who your friends were. Now that I see such ignorance and arrogance being displayed by one who has NiM achievements done, I guess I was completely wrong in assuming the game is about an even mix after all.

Guess even the ignorant mediocre players can make it far whenever they make the correct friends.

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Mevarek
06.26.2014 , 11:37 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ZooMzy View Post
First of all, lol. Lack of gear is your best excuse for not being a viable player? Why don't you actually take a look at the stats that matter as a DPS, aka, "DPS" and "DTPS" (Damage Taken Per Second)?

Oh wait, you don't want to look at those numbers because despite said gear inadequacies, Thor was barely able to come out on top with his fully min maxed, Dread Forged geared Sniper to an undergeared, unoptimized, no set bonus Deception assassin. I mean really, NiM level raider with extensive experience in that fight doing an even battle in DPS with someone who had never been in the fight before nor had the min maxed stats of BiS and at the same time, was playing the arguably weakest DPS spec in the entire game for PvE? Ok, let's talk about Thor's arrogance if he follows your pattern of thought where his ignorance can be justified only because he was barely able to beat out another on multiple handicaps.

Secondly, yeah, you have gotten better connections. You have not built a raid team, nor have you put yourself in a position to lead one. All you have done is transfer servers, been competent enough to follow orders and commands, and now have some achievements because your friends were good enough to clear the content. So congrats again on your title clear, but if you're going to post ignorance and try to back it up with only achievements, then be ready to get stomped on. Because unless you've actually led a raid team to clear any content or done anything that signifies capability in understanding mechanics such as backing your nonsense up with logic instead of "I've downed it before", gg.

Finally, lol? I ran with CS during the time you seem so fondly to remember (maybe it was because you didn't like imperial second Dreadful Entity to casuals?), not ToS who is a new guild. In terms of raid accomplishments, CS was the biggest waste of my time. I raided with them more out of casual fun more than anything, I only moved to ToS after they started attempting to get more competitive and didn't like what that sort of environment that tough content presented.

Then, after joining up with ToS, we cleared HM DF and DP within a matter of 3 nights each in both operations. So before you start attempting to trash talk, you might want to take a look at the person you're attempting to argue with and realize your self created opinion of them actually isn't what is happening in the virtual world.

You know, I used to think that the reason why HM heroes would never touch NiM content was because that sort of content required at least an even mix of both skill and who your friends were. Now that I see such ignorance and arrogance being displayed by one who has NiM achievements done, I guess I was completely wrong in assuming the game is about an even mix after all.

Guess even the ignorant mediocre players can make it far whenever they make the correct friends.
First of all, your basing thor's entire skill as a raid leader and raider on one instance in which he was on a toon that he is inferior at. Secondly, why would I be butthurt about dreadful entity? It's an easy boss. Besides, you have little to no proof that I have been carried. Your only "argument" seems to be that because I raid with the best guild in the game, I am getting carried. I didn't just server transfer to harbinger. However, admittedly, the only reason I got into chosen was through serroth, and even then I had to prove myself to raid with them for as long as I did. The same can be said about Zorz. I didn't just move over to harbinger and make friends and get in. I had to submit an application and tryout with NM DP on pts and then I moved my sniper to harbinger.
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