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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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Yeren
12.29.2011 , 12:12 PM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by Dodia View Post
You're right, it doesn't happen to EVERYONE, only about, I'd say, 99.99999% of healers. You alone being the sole exception, ya know.
As a matter of fact it happened to me just the other night when I was running with 3 of my guildies ... cause I couldn't heal him for squat unless I saw him flash across my screen.
"You can only punch a rancor's nose so many times before you realize there's got to be a better way" -- Han Solo

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Senefera
12.29.2011 , 12:13 PM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by PurveyorOfTruth View Post
Ok this is absolute BS. Raid frames show when players take damage, please post a video of a FP or a WZ where there is absolutely no change happening to the raid frames, then I will believe you.

It may be slow to respond, but it is not broken.
UI is bugged and doesn't update.
Since the last patch it has been a lot better, but now we have the "missing team member" bug a lot more often instead. It is more common than not that my party member does not show in my raid frames if we join together.

This has been an issue for a very long time and for very many players.
Charna Lord Calypho
Pre dinner Sage.
(It's good for you)

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PurveyorOfTruth
12.29.2011 , 12:14 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Dodia View Post
You're right, it doesn't happen to EVERYONE, only about, I'd say, 99.99999% of healers. You alone being the sole exception, ya know.
And you know this because you have interviewed all the other healers that play SWTOR?

Yeah right I call BS.

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RJChief
12.29.2011 , 12:15 PM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by Shendream View Post
Actually UI is bugged and doesn't update health in a raid frames... keep informed..
REFRESH USER INTERFACE!!

Ctrl +U to release then Ctrl + U to renew ==> double tape ctrl + u will refresh your user interface and fix the raid bar bug in any situation. Do this every time you enter a WZ and you will get updating hp bars and hp bars for every member in your wz.

Also I see lots of people saying PVP healing is pointless, and that everyone should go damage. Welcome to the world of pugs... pugs are notorious for neglecting their healers, letting them die, not thanking them, etc. Find some friends, use tactics. A tank with "guard" and/or a 2nd healer can keep any healer up on a 3-4 man gank (speaking from experience). My level 33 JC Sage was able to hold strong against a 3 man focused lvl 50 sith assault. Also was able to keep up a level 44 commando against a 5 man assault of various levels.

Healers may not be as absurd as they were in WoW but if that is the only game you've ever healed in then you can't truly cry. There are more tactics in this game then WoW, healers are not necissarily a solo class but thrive on the teamwork of raid members (harpoon, gaurd, force shield, cc, and other such shelters and saves).


I notice that the only complaints are being brought forth from warzone pvp. Have healers had any issue in owpvp? Are sith sorc still cc and dps overpowered in owpvp? Thus far I have had NO issues anywhere on my JC Sage with respect to disadvantaged or overpowered in pvp. I think EA+BW did a great job in formulating the abilities for each class in a way that not only ENCOURAGES teamwork, but DEMANDS it.

PVP with your own 4 man premade. Guild chat, teamspeak --> l2p w/ teamwork
Back off... And let me do my Job.
Badcompany
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Senefera
12.29.2011 , 12:16 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by PurveyorOfTruth View Post
And you know this because you have interviewed all the other healers that play SWTOR?

Yeah right I call BS.
And you know you're an exception because you've done the same?

Have you spent any times on these boards and in healing threads before today?

If yes, you would have noticed a lot of different people reporting the same issue. So many I actually thought it was something that effected us all. Up until your post today I have not seen one single post claiming the raid frames were fine.
Charna Lord Calypho
Pre dinner Sage.
(It's good for you)

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Shendream
12.29.2011 , 12:17 PM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
REFRESH USER INTERFACE!!

Ctrl +U to release then Ctrl + U to renew ==> double tape ctrl + u will refresh your user interface and fix the raid bar bug in any situation. Do this every time you enter a WZ and you will get updating hp bars and hp bars for every member in your wz.

Also I see lots of people saying PVP healing is pointless, and that everyone should go damage. Welcome to the world of pugs... pugs are notorious for neglecting their healers, letting them die, not thanking them, etc. Find some friends, use tactics. A tank with "guard" and/or a 2nd healer can keep any healer up on a 3-4 man gank (speaking from experience). My level 33 JC Sage was able to hold strong against a 3 man focused lvl 50 sith assault. Also was able to keep up a level 44 commando against a 5 man assault of various levels.

Healers may not be as absurd as they were in WoW but if that is the only game you've ever healed in then you can't truly cry. There are more tactics in this game then WoW, healers are not necissarily a solo class but thrive on the teamwork of raid members (harpoon, gaurd, force shield, cc, and other such shelters and saves).


I notice that the only complaints are being brought forth from warzone pvp. Have healers had any issue in owpvp? Are sith sorc still cc and dps overpowered in owpvp? Thus far I have had NO issues anywhere on my JC Sage with respect to disadvantaged or overpowered in pvp. I think EA+BW did a great job in formulating the abilities for each class in a way that not only ENCOURAGES teamwork, but DEMANDS it.

PVP with your own 4 man premade. Guild chat, teamspeak --> l2p w/ teamwork
No...sometimes it solves, but a lot of time works only for a few seconds...

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PurveyorOfTruth
12.29.2011 , 12:17 PM | #317
Quote: Originally Posted by Senefera View Post
UI is bugged and doesn't update.
Since the last patch it has been a lot better, but now we have the "missing team member" bug a lot more often instead. It is more common than not that my party member does not show in my raid frames if we join together.

This has been an issue for a very long time and for very many players.
Ok please post a vid where there are no updates to raid frames and then I will shut up, but until then everyone who is saying its broken (I can agree they need to speed up the responsiveness, but its not "broken") is just pissing in the wind.

And if it is such a BIG issue that has been around for a LONG time and is game breaking for SO many people, then why hasn't BW addressed the issue?

Maybe its because it doesn't happen to 99.999999% of healers like some people on here think.

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RJChief
12.29.2011 , 12:18 PM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Shendream View Post
No...sometimes it solves, but a lot of time works only for a few seconds...
better a sometimes solves than a not at all... if it doesn't work the first time -> try, try again.
Back off... And let me do my Job.
Badcompany
Dark Reaper

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Senefera
12.29.2011 , 12:21 PM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
REFRESH USER INTERFACE!!

Ctrl +U to release then Ctrl + U to renew ==> double tape ctrl + u will refresh your user interface and fix the raid bar bug in any situation. Do this every time you enter a WZ and you will get updating hp bars and hp bars for every member in your wz.
Never worked for me. Other people also reported that playing in windowed worked, but not for me. Also, the fix with resizing the raid frame before every battle only worked about half the time.

It does work a lot better now, and I don't think I have had the static health bug since this patch.

I'm not complaining, I know the game is new, some things are a bit dodgy with the UI, but I absolutely love healing in SWTOR!
But health frame issue has been in since beta, got horrific around launch and seem to be a bit better now. I'd still love if all team members would show, but he who waits for something good...
Charna Lord Calypho
Pre dinner Sage.
(It's good for you)

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RJChief
12.29.2011 , 12:21 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by PurveyorOfTruth View Post
Ok please post a vid where there are no updates to raid frames and then I will shut up, but until then everyone who is saying its broken (I can agree they need to speed up the responsiveness, but its not "broken") is just pissing in the wind.

And if it is such a BIG issue that has been around for a LONG time and is game breaking for SO many people, then why hasn't BW addressed the issue?

Maybe its because it doesn't happen to 99.999999% of healers like some people on here think.
It is an issues, I dont' feel the need to screen shot it for you. Honestly don't care if you claim its not broken, I'm glad it works perfectly for you. It's not even just a WZ issue, its an ops group issue.

BW has lots of glitches to sort through and I AM hoping they get to this one sooner rather than later, so instead of insisting its not broken because it works for you, just let us announce that its broken and does not work for us please.

When I say "broken" I dont mean slow, I mean completely unresponsive --> as in someone could be a 1% health but the ops bar shows 100%
Back off... And let me do my Job.
Badcompany
Dark Reaper