Star Wars Fans "OFFICIALLY" discredit Bioware's Star Wars: The Old Republic

"The Fans" do not have a unified consensus, some individual fans are happy the EU is being made non-canon, others are upset, and others are indifferent. Claiming that the collective have a single view is nothing more than rhetoric to try to inflate your own view.

And even if the fans did, overall, dislike the Legends/Canon split... that split still happened. Wookieepedia would be remiss if they didn't acknowledge that it happened and reflect it in their articles, the same way they would have been remiss in not including articles on characters from the Holiday Special just because no one likes that. Some fans were outraged when Chewie died in Vector Prime, doesn't mean that Wookieepedia should have just ignored that it happened.

A wiki, including a fan-site wiki, is supposed to be a repository of information/facts (in this case "facts" about a fictional universe, but even so) - leaving out a bit of relevant information just because they don't like it doesn't make it a better fan site, it makes it a worse wiki. Omitting information would be going against everything that site is supposed to be.

So lets get this straight.

First have have people who are wondering wether or not SWTOR is cannon with the decision that disney made.

Then we had people make many threads about it.

And now apparently a Wiki run by fans (as in not official by any means, they could call the movies non canon if they want) claim that SWTOR isn't cannon.


The simple fact is that there is no debate to be had. We don't know and the only people that can say wether or not SWTOR (and and all of the story Bioware made) is cannon or not either simply don't know are are not talking. (And I don't mean Bioware, they may not even know)

The funny thing is, they acknowledged that:

What about...?

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Certain sources previously released as Expanded Universe material remain unclear as to whether they are now considered to be canon. Based on statements made by Lucasfilm senior editor Jennifer Heddle and Del Rey publishing, Wookieepedia considers the following. This section may require updating as Lucasfilm releases new updates.

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Heddle assumes that the Old Republic era is non-canon, but she notes "that's something we've wondered ourselves" and that "I guess we'll see." She also assumes the MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic is non-canon, but she is uncertain, since the game is still ongoing.

Wookieepedia is just sensibly stating the facts, and defining a policy, smart move.

"The Fans" do not have a unified consensus, some individual fans are happy the EU is being made non-canon, others are upset, and others are indifferent. Claiming that the collective have a single view is nothing more than rhetoric to try to inflate your own view.

And even if the fans did, overall, dislike the Legends/Canon split... that split still happened. Wookieepedia would be remiss if they didn't acknowledge that it happened and reflect it in their articles, the same way they would have been remiss in not including articles on characters from the Holiday Special just because no one likes that. Some fans were outraged when Chewie died in Vector Prime, doesn't mean that Wookieepedia should have just ignored that it happened.

A wiki, including a fan-site wiki, is supposed to be a repository of information/facts (in this case "facts" about a fictional universe, but even so) - leaving out a bit of relevant information just because they don't like it doesn't make it a better fan site, it makes it a worse wiki. Omitting information would be going against everything that site is supposed to be.

Continuity is bad, we prefer disjointed information that lacks logic.

I find entertainment in fans arguing about what's canon, what's not canon, what fan sites are doing, etc.

I find less entertainment in that then I find in enjoying the stories... but it's still entertainment.

Why do you all allow yourselves to get wrapped around the axle like that? The only people who ever need to care what is canon or isn't canon are the professional writers hired to produce more Star Wars story, and they are going to have the support of Disney to help them understand what is and is not canon.

Heddle isn't in charge. Leland Chee and Kathleen Kennedy are. Leland Chee is Heddle's boss in a manner of speaking. And he says only the movies and the clone wars cartoon are canon. Period. End of story.

Good point! Very solid analysis. I would add, that if a fan website claims to be controlled by fans and of the fans, then they should find a way to represent this split of fan consensus instead of taking a stance that not even Disney has openly taken, claiming Star Wars The Old Republic isn't canon anymore because it falls in the old C-Canon category which is under T-Canon. Also, I am curious as to how Bioware feels about it. They have been quiet as there has been no official statement on SWTOR's canon status.

While this guys is making a fuss over nothing, I do disagree when people say that canon and continuity are unimportant concepts that folks "shouldn't care about". I said why on another thread, which I'll link here.

I find entertainment in fans arguing about what's canon, what's not canon, what fan sites are doing, etc.

I find less entertainment in that then I find in enjoying the stories... but it's still entertainment.

Why do you all allow yourselves to get wrapped around the axle like that? The only people who ever need to care what is canon or isn't canon are the professional writers hired to produce more Star Wars story, and they are going to have the support of Disney to help them understand what is and is not canon.