Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > General Discussion
Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

Wylf's Avatar


Wylf
05.15.2014 , 06:00 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
Golly gee, I wonder who he is talking about.
Moby Fett. He's white and fat.
'Twas right, said they, such birds to slay
that bring the fog and mist

The Mitharr Legacy - Way too many characters to name here.
EU - The Progenitor

Superman_AZ's Avatar


Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 06:50 AM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
Golly gee, I wonder who he is talking about.
I just didn't want to announce it and make folks think we are BFFs or something. You and I had a great conversation in a series of PM responses that opened my eyes to a lot of things. Since then, I now understand when someone is typing, they are not always angry, nor attacking me. Even if they are, it is still inconsequential since they are just words in a forum
"Be yourself, no one can ever tell you you're doing it wrong." ~ James Leo Herlihy

Superman_AZ's Avatar


Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 06:53 AM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by theUndead View Post
I would just like to point out that on that infamous day one particular troll of all deserved the destruction you gave. Just saying.
Yes... she did. Everytime she used the word opinion, all I could hear in my head was "That's YOUR opinion Maneus!" lol
"Be yourself, no one can ever tell you you're doing it wrong." ~ James Leo Herlihy

OddballEasyEight's Avatar


OddballEasyEight
05.15.2014 , 07:07 AM | #194
Well this is kinda interesting.

The OP states that he dislikes Dailies but does them anyway to make money.
That's also true for about 99% of the PvE crowd.
Almost nobody "likes" doing Dailies and would rather be doing something else.

As for ops with rare drops and reverse engineering those.
Yeah... It'll take quite a while to get those rare drops and managing to reverse engineer them and then get the rare mats to build them to make money.
If you had spent the same amount of time doing PvP and using the Wz coms to buy cash crates, you'd have a pretty massive amount of money.

I'm willing to bet that if you had just spent as much time doing just PvP and buying those cash crates as you do on dailies, ops and all that, you'd still have about the same amount of money.

It may LOOK like you make more money doing PvE, but you really don't.
Dailies isn't "PvE" content, it's grinding for money.
Ops isn't a cash-cow.
Crafting isn't something that is exclusive to PvE.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Get a FREE character transfer and 7 FREE days of subscription, plus a bunch of other useful stuff by clicking my referral link.
Click here for my videos previewing blaster sounds.

Malckiah's Avatar


Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 07:18 AM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Well this is kinda interesting.

The OP states that he dislikes Dailies but does them anyway to make money.
That's also true for about 99% of the PvE crowd.
Almost nobody "likes" doing Dailies and would rather be doing something else.

As for ops with rare drops and reverse engineering those.
Yeah... It'll take quite a while to get those rare drops and managing to reverse engineer them and then get the rare mats to build them to make money.
If you had spent the same amount of time doing PvP and using the Wz coms to buy cash crates, you'd have a pretty massive amount of money.

I'm willing to bet that if you had just spent as much time doing just PvP and buying those cash crates as you do on dailies, ops and all that, you'd still have about the same amount of money.

It may LOOK like you make more money doing PvE, but you really don't.
Dailies isn't "PvE" content, it's grinding for money.
Ops isn't a cash-cow.
Crafting isn't something that is exclusive to PvE.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.
ok.....I just want this thread to end already. But as a last thought..... What if when 3.0 came out the most needed material for mods and armoring was through pvp only instead of pve? What harm would it do? What would the pve'ers think of that? Food for thought. Goodbye!

Wylf's Avatar


Wylf
05.15.2014 , 07:29 AM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by Malckiah View Post
ok.....I just want this thread to end already. But as a last thought..... What if when 3.0 came out the most needed material for mods and armoring was through pvp only instead of pve? What harm would it do? What would the pve'ers think of that? Food for thought. Goodbye!
Correct me if I'm wrong (since I don't really play highlevel content all that much), but don't you get 'the most needed material for mods and armorings' via, well, gathering missions and gathering? I might be missing something there, of course. But if thats the case - neither gathering nor gathering missions are in fact PvE content. They are a timesink, nothing more, nothing less.
'Twas right, said they, such birds to slay
that bring the fog and mist

The Mitharr Legacy - Way too many characters to name here.
EU - The Progenitor

Superman_AZ's Avatar


Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 07:43 AM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong (since I don't really play highlevel content all that much), but don't you get 'the most needed material for mods and armorings' via, well, gathering missions and gathering? I might be missing something there, of course. But if thats the case - neither gathering nor gathering missions are in fact PvE content. They are a timesink, nothing more, nothing less.
Agreed. They neither "require" PvE or PvP, not withstanding battling NPCs or other players for the resources.
"Be yourself, no one can ever tell you you're doing it wrong." ~ James Leo Herlihy

Malckiah's Avatar


Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 07:48 AM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong (since I don't really play highlevel content all that much), but don't you get 'the most needed material for mods and armorings' via, well, gathering missions and gathering? I might be missing something there, of course. But if thats the case - neither gathering nor gathering missions are in fact PvE content. They are a timesink, nothing more, nothing less.
Isotope 5 is only obtained through pve commendations.
As well Mass Manipulation generators which are very needed drop in ops and go for 750- 800k each!

(edited for more mature content)

MillionsKNives's Avatar


MillionsKNives
05.15.2014 , 07:49 AM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I would agree...

But I don't think you can quantify it like that because of the nature of the activities...PvE NEEDS 10x's the number of things to do because it's all scripted and static content, whereas PvP is different every time. Variety is needed to keep PvE 'fresh' but every PvP or GSF match is unique.

As far as time to complete things - a full Voidstar PvP match takes longer than a full NiM EV run. I ran the TFB/SnV weekly on Sunday in about 25 min total for both.

So...I still classify it as 3 end game categories to participate in.
Well this thread moved a bunch since last night.

I mostly agree with (or at least understand) what you're saying, but my main point that I was trying to get at, and possibly not successfully, was that once you've been through a warzone once you've pretty much seen what there is to see. Sure it goes a bit differently each time, and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, but it's still the same warzone. At that point you're not really missing out on anything, unless you enjoy it. It's not all that different from someone only doing an operation once. Sure, they could run it over and over until the end of time, but they won't really be missing out on the content if they've just done it the once.

Wylf's Avatar


Wylf
05.15.2014 , 07:53 AM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Malckiah View Post
Isotope 5 is only obtained through pve commendations.
As well Mass Manipulation generators which are very needed drop in ops and go for 750- 800k each!

If I were u I would say Deal with it!.... but I don't need to.
Thank you for the correction. See, we could have a nice discussion here, but every single time it kinda goes down that road you come and add another snide remark. You're really hurting yourself with that attitude, I'd recommend losing it if you want a discussion, otherwise you will continue to get hostile responses.
'Twas right, said they, such birds to slay
that bring the fog and mist

The Mitharr Legacy - Way too many characters to name here.
EU - The Progenitor