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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 05:23 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
Of course not. Hence why you managed to make two threads that go just like that in one day.
Ya, I made them at the same time when I was in the wrong frame of mind.

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Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 05:24 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Malckiah View Post
Just fyi....the community would be a lot better and far more productive if you guys focused less on attacking people and trying to belittle people and more time trying to actually discuss things in civilized manner.
I read your Original post before you deleted it. The amount of irony in this statement demands I start wearing hipwaders in your threads.
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Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 05:26 AM | #183
And people on the forums seem to be so quick lately to cut others... look around.... in pretty much every thread on here there are people that do nothing but cause trouble on threads which leads to crap like what happened here. Yes my Title started it here, but even after I made an honest attempt to change it around everyone continued to pick. I guess its easy to be evil.

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Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 05:28 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I read your Original post before you deleted it. The amount of irony in this statement demands I start wearing hipwaders in your threads.
Really? Weird. I must just be bad at wording things I guess. I am sure it had some valid points.

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Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 05:33 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by ThorgrimLutgen View Post
There are not masses of people subscribing to the game anymore. Last official comment was 500,000. There have never been millions, it was mooted maybe 1.5M at launch which quickly fell to less than 500,000. They are suggesting that the F2P model worked to a degree in that it did lure in some new subs to increase the numbers back to the half million.

Please, get a sense of reality here.

We can all throw meaningless numbers around. The true F2P players are totally meaningless to these numbers as they contribute zero to the longevity of the game. If they do, then they are not really F2P.
And over time we have gained a few hundred thousand and lost just as many. I would say, guessing of course, there have been at least 5M Swtor accounts created... including F2P only, and returning preferreds. So, if in the course of 24 months, the game managed 2M unique accounts, spanned accross all 3 types of access, that means between the 250k active subs, the 500k F2P, and the 1.25M inactive accounts, that puts us close to a few million, active or inactive.

As for F2P not being F2P, using micro-transactions does not hinder the definition of F2P which commonly refers to no sub cost. Candy Crush is F2P, but you can buy boosts. Same with SWTOR. But in SWTOR's case, even the FTP or preferred models still gain some CC which to spend and perpetuate the game. In fact, it may even prompt them to sub/re-sub. Numbers are just a way of puting a name with a face. You can change any number you like to make the message clear, since ultimately it is understanding the game is not limited to the players actively in the game right now. In two years, and all those subs active or inactive, it still stands to reason that not every sub comes to the forums.

We are all a vocal minority.
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Superman_AZ
05.15.2014 , 05:38 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Malckiah View Post
Really? Weird. I must just be bad at wording things I guess. I am sure it had some valid points.
I'm sure it did, but they were obscured by the blind rage that ensued. Take it from someone who had the biggest meltdown in the history of this forum and ripped a new blackhole into 5 different trolls in a 4 hour rampage that ultimately earned me a 7 day suspension:

There is no emotion, there is only fact.

When you have a valid concern, make the thread but remember to be absolutely clear about your message, and leave the emotion and insults at the door. People will take you much more serious. However, even after a year, there are still people willing to throw that day in my face. I don't mind though, cause back then, I loved telling those trolls how I really felt. These days? After a long talk in a PM with a certain Bounty Hunter, I've discovered that taking things personally on these forums is a bad move. So, instead, I flip my Spock switch and use basic logic and facts, and leave the hyperbole/strawman/ad hominem/ad nauseum at the door.
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Malckiah
05.15.2014 , 05:41 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I'm sure it did, but they were obscured by the blind rage that ensued. Take it from someone who had the biggest meltdown in the history of this forum and ripped a new blackhole into 5 different trolls in a 4 hour rampage that ultimately earned me a 7 day suspension:

There is no emotion, there is only fact.

When you have a valid concern, make the thread but remember to be absolutely clear about your message, and leave the emotion and insults at the door. People will take you much more serious. However, even after a year, there are still people willing to throw that day in my face. I don't mind though, cause back then, I loved telling those trolls how I really felt. These days? After a long talk in a PM with a certain Bounty Hunter, I've discovered that taking things personally on these forums is a bad move. So, instead, I flip my Spock switch and use basic logic and facts, and leave the hyperbole/strawman/ad hominem/ad nauseum at the door.
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robertthebard
05.15.2014 , 05:46 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Malckiah View Post
That is too much of a stretch my friend.... The amount of money would not really change, just how people go about getting it.
Wrong.

This is what happens in an unchecked economy: http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...kedeconomy.jpg

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theUndead
05.15.2014 , 05:47 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I'm sure it did, but they were obscured by the blind rage that ensued. Take it from someone who had the biggest meltdown in the history of this forum and ripped a new blackhole into 5 different trolls in a 4 hour rampage that ultimately earned me a 7 day suspension:

There is no emotion, there is only fact.

When you have a valid concern, make the thread but remember to be absolutely clear about your message, and leave the emotion and insults at the door. People will take you much more serious. However, even after a year, there are still people willing to throw that day in my face. I don't mind though, cause back then, I loved telling those trolls how I really felt. These days? After a long talk in a PM with a certain Bounty Hunter, I've discovered that taking things personally on these forums is a bad move. So, instead, I flip my Spock switch and use basic logic and facts, and leave the hyperbole/strawman/ad hominem/ad nauseum at the door.
I would just like to point out that on that infamous day one particular troll of all deserved the destruction you gave. Just saying.
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Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As theUndead mentioned, I can't exactly spell out all of our policies in depth, but that should hopefully cover your concerns.

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Reno_Tarshil
05.15.2014 , 05:51 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Superman_AZ View Post
I'm sure it did, but they were obscured by the blind rage that ensued. Take it from someone who had the biggest meltdown in the history of this forum and ripped a new blackhole into 5 different trolls in a 4 hour rampage that ultimately earned me a 7 day suspension:

There is no emotion, there is only fact.

When you have a valid concern, make the thread but remember to be absolutely clear about your message, and leave the emotion and insults at the door. People will take you much more serious. However, even after a year, there are still people willing to throw that day in my face. I don't mind though, cause back then, I loved telling those trolls how I really felt. These days? After a long talk in a PM with a certain Bounty Hunter, I've discovered that taking things personally on these forums is a bad move. So, instead, I flip my Spock switch and use basic logic and facts, and leave the hyperbole/strawman/ad hominem/ad nauseum at the door.
Golly gee, I wonder who he is talking about.
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