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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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Bioware: Most of your players are pvp'ers.... figure it out!

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05.14.2014 , 03:20 PM | #131
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05.14.2014 , 03:26 PM | #132
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Great post...I'd love it if they updated it to show GSF now too. Apparently FLEET has the most players
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05.14.2014 , 03:57 PM | #133
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As far as most of the people being pvp'ers. Only Bioware could answer that to be sure and to be honest it doesn't really matter. You guys could argue the title statement all day like idiots and get nowhere. Food for the trolls I suppose. Though I do believe still that there are more pvp'ers than there are people that play operations and the like. And I do think the forum numbers reflect this....LOL!
If what you say is true wouldn't that mean you'd almost never be waiting on a PVP queue? If the majority of people playing were playing PVP the queues would pop instantly almost every time right? So why is it that they don't if/when the majority of people are playing PVP?

Why is it that the Kuat Drives Flashpoint queues pop nearly instantly every time people queue for it?

Also wouldn't the PVE servers be way under populated in comparison to the PVP servers if what you said is true?

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As far as most of the people being pvp'ers. Only Bioware could answer that to be sure
Yeah, that's not true, and everyone here knows it. You're just grasping at anything you can to try and not look worse. Why you're trying to do any damage control at this point is beyond me though.

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05.14.2014 , 04:16 PM | #134
@Darth_Obvious

Whilst I agree partly with what you're saying, your example is flawed. KDY required 4 people whereas a Warzone match requires a minimum of 8 and depending on which role you take up, the queue times aren't too dissimilar.

However, its absurd to assume that the majority of players on this game are PVPers. PVP on this game doesn't require huge amounts of skill, nor a high end gaming machine but where it differs is the fact its set in the Star Wars universe. When I first joined this game, I found the actual PVE aspect very interesting and fun, as I wasn't that much into SW prior to this, however once I discovered PVP and found I was good at it, I was hooked. But, I started this game with 4 friends and 3 of those 4 play a handful of games just for the dailies and its because they are so engrossed in the Story.

Very few games which have detailed story's cater have larger PVP populations and SWTOR is no different I believe.

For all you and I know I could be completely wrong and there could be 100 regular PVPers to ever 10 PVEers, but common sense would tell me that on such an expansive game PVE would reign King.

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05.14.2014 , 04:29 PM | #135
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If what you say is true wouldn't that mean you'd almost never be waiting on a PVP queue? If the majority of people playing were playing PVP the queues would pop instantly almost every time right? So why is it that they don't if/when the majority of people are playing PVP?

Why is it that the Kuat Drives Flashpoint queues pop nearly instantly every time people queue for it?

Also wouldn't the PVE servers be way under populated in comparison to the PVP servers if what you said is true?



Yeah, that's not true, and everyone here knows it. You're just grasping at anything you can to try and not look worse. Why you're trying to do any damage control at this point is beyond me though.
1. You are not comparing apples to apples. Warzones pop random, you can not queue for your favorite one. Also A lot of my time I have to spend doing things I would rather not just to make money....so I am not queue'd while doing so.
2. I primarily pvp and love it, yet I would never play on a pvp server. Most people want to pvp when they want to... and most people don't want to be ganked when they don't. So your logic is very flawed.

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05.14.2014 , 04:33 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Obvious View Post
If what you say is true wouldn't that mean you'd almost never be waiting on a PVP queue? If the majority of people playing were playing PVP the queues would pop instantly almost every time right? So why is it that they don't if/when the majority of people are playing PVP?

Why is it that the Kuat Drives Flashpoint queues pop nearly instantly every time people queue for it?

Also wouldn't the PVE servers be way under populated in comparison to the PVP servers if what you said is true?



Yeah, that's not true, and everyone here knows it. You're just grasping at anything you can to try and not look worse. Why you're trying to do any damage control at this point is beyond me though.
PvP warzones always do pop more frequently than KDY. Any time of the day, be it 3 am in the morning, or 9 pm in the night. Any time, and every time, no exceptions. And this is not me exagerrating. I have literally never had any occasion except double XP events where any form of PvE has faster pop times than PvP. In fact, I'd go so far as to say RANKED PvP pops more frequently than Flashpoints do. Even though us PvPers always complain about how long the queue times are for Ranked.

And server population does not reflect number of PvPers or PvErs. It reflects the number of Open-world PvPers in the game, since there is no difference between the servers except the capability of doing that during events.
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05.14.2014 , 08:34 PM | #137
Oh...OP...you so did not open this can of worms. *wags finger like Queen Latifah*

Do not go there, or I'll go Story Players get the shaft mode on your *****, and really no one wants me to do that. Really.

At least they give you guys new arenas and funky rewards for playing them well, and new huttball crap and GSF, even if some don't consider the wee ships true pvp. At least you get that. There are many who want story. Where is it? *sniffs around* It's all gone...

There are probably other groups that like certain things too and feel like they've been left behind. I just know it. *waits*
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05.14.2014 , 08:38 PM | #138
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Oh...OP...you so did not open this can of worms. *wags finger like Queen Latifah*

Do not go there, or I'll go Story Players get the shaft mode on your *****, and really no one wants me to do that. Really.

At least they give you guys new arenas and funky rewards for playing them well, and new huttball crap and GSF, even if some don't consider the wee ships true pvp. At least you get that. There are many who want story. Where is it? *sniffs around* It's all gone...

There are probably other groups that like certain things too and feel like they've been left behind. I just know it. *waits*
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05.14.2014 , 08:39 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
Oh...OP...you so did not open this can of worms. *wags finger like Queen Latifah*

Do not go there, or I'll go Story Players get the shaft mode on your *****, and really no one wants me to do that. Really.

At least they give you guys new arenas and funky rewards for playing them well, and new huttball crap and GSF, even if some don't consider the wee ships true pvp. At least you get that. There are many who want story. Where is it? *sniffs around* It's all gone...

There are probably other groups that like certain things too and feel like they've been left behind. I just know it. *waits*
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And OP.. you could learn a few things from Lunafox about how to express you needs/wants/desires.
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05.14.2014 , 08:43 PM | #140
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/Cheers for Lunafox!

And OP.. you could learn a few things from Lunafox about how to express you needs/wants/desires.
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