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Underwater Explorer and Adventurer Armor JetPack Frustration/Bug?

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Underwater Explorer and Adventurer Armor JetPack Frustration/Bug?

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Darth_Wicked
05.12.2014 , 01:29 PM | #11
Why are people even surprised that this kind of stuff happens? I mean, really?

It's the kind of stuff that has been happening ever since this game was released; Hell, you have high-tier armor, namely the Black Hole / Campaign / Dread Guard with a jet pack on the back and even so, the boost comes from the feet, like the jet pack is not even there.

Black Hole / Campaign / Dread Guard gear has been around over two(!!!) years now... It was never fixed and seeing that it may be considered outdated and only worth the bother if you're a collector, they'll never come to fix it.

I bought the Underwater armor sets already but since I was told that it was plagued by this same issue, I didn't even bother to open the lockboxes.
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dakajojo
05.12.2014 , 01:33 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Actually, it shouldn't be sarcasm.
If you look closely it IS a jetpack. For underwater travel.
What y'all want is rocketpacks. That's what boba and jango had. That's what the bounty hunters have in the game (hence rocket jump and rocket punch instead of jet jump and jet punch).

The jet pack is obviously made for underwater travel. It's not a bug that there are no rocket flames coming out if it since it isn't a rocket.
I get what you are saying, but as there is no underwater travel in this game, the jetpack/rocketpack (whatever you wish to address it as) should work like the other Bounty Hunter armor chest pieces that have a jetpack on the back (should they work as intended and are not bugged.)

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dakajojo
05.12.2014 , 01:38 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
Why are people even surprised that this kind of stuff happens? I mean, really?

It's the kind of stuff that has been happening ever since this game was released; Hell, you have high-tier armor, namely the Black Hole / Campaign / Dread Guard with a jet pack on the back and even so, the boost comes from the feet, like the jet pack is not even there.

Black Hole / Campaign / Dread Guard gear has been around over two(!!!) years now... It was never fixed and seeing that it may be considered outdated and only worth the bother if you're a collector, they'll never come to fix it.

I bought the Underwater armor sets already but since I was told that it was plagued by this same issue, I didn't even bother to open the lockboxes.
It's not that we are surprised... it just need to be addressed.

On the subject of older gear: they still haven't addressed the hood issue (up on some, down on others, or if it's up the model shows another hood down...) on robes for the Jedi classes. I think it's safer to say they would address newer, CM-originated gear though.

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Darth_Wicked
05.12.2014 , 01:40 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by dakajojo View Post
I get what you are saying, but as there is no underwater travel in this game, the jetpack/rocketpack (whatever you wish to address it as) should work like the other Bounty Hunter armor chest pieces that have a jetpack on the back (should they work as intended and are not bugged.)
It's not bugged. Not really.

In the end, it comes down to a set of rules for each armor template that Bioware has put in place, which is why you have armor sets where the boost comes from the back, when there's no actual jet pack there or from the feet, when there's an actual jet pack on the back.

I honestly doubt they'll ever come to fix different armor sets on an individual basis.
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Darth_Wicked
05.12.2014 , 01:44 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by dakajojo View Post
It's not that we are surprised... it just need to be addressed.

On the subject of older gear: they still haven't addressed the hood issue (up on some, down on others, or if it's up the model shows another hood down...) on robes for the Jedi classes. I think it's safer to say they would address newer, CM-originated gear though.
Again, it probably comes down to the armor template as I mentioned above; Each armor, as the way it is designed, appears to based off on and I believe it's fair to assume that each has a different set of rules.

Some, as mentioned above, have a jet pack added on the back but for all intents and purposes, the template wasn't built that way so it assumes there's no pack there; Hence, the boost comes from the feet.

Others have no jet pack at all and yet the boost comes from the back, like there's a jet pack there.

Changing the different armor templates is probably too much of a hassle and changing around on an individual basis... Well...

The fact that only one class is plagued by this issue doesn't help, since it's probably a fairly small minority who'll even talk about it.

EDIT:

My internet is toying with me...

Was under the impression my previous post had "disappeared" and now it's there.
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ZahirS
05.12.2014 , 01:46 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Actually, it shouldn't be sarcasm.
If you look closely it IS a jetpack. For underwater travel.
What y'all want is rocketpacks. That's what boba and jango had. That's what the bounty hunters have in the game (hence rocket jump and rocket punch instead of jet jump and jet punch).

The jet pack is obviously made for underwater travel. It's not a bug that there are no rocket flames coming out if it since it isn't a rocket.
Yes please tell him is a "blubble pack" and "thruster" closest thing to a Aquapack like said previously.

Underwater, means Underwater...

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Millardkillmoore
05.12.2014 , 01:47 PM | #17
Just submitted a bug report in-game. There are multiple threads on this topic, so it's clear that a significant amount of people are frustrated by the malfunctioning jetpacks. It'd be very nice to get a dev response on if this is even supposed to be a bug.

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dakajojo
05.12.2014 , 01:47 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
Again, it probably comes down to the armor template as I mentioned above; Each armor, as the way it is designed, appears to based off on and I believe it's fair to assume that each has a different set of rules.

Some, as mentioned above, have a jet pack added on the back but for all intents and purposes, the template wasn't built that way so it assumes there's no pack there; Hence, the boost comes from the feet.

Others have no jet pack at all and yet the boost comes from the back, like there's a jet pack there.

Changing the different armor templates is probably too much of a hassle and changing around on an individual basis... Well...

The fact that only one class is plagued by this issue doesn't help, since it's probably a fairly small minority who'll even talk about it.

EDIT:

My internet is toying with me...

Was under the impression my previous post had "disappeared" and now it's there.
I would consider the template issue you describe as a bug. If a jetpack is there, it should be used instead of the animation coming from the character's feet.

The devs have addressed other gear issues in the past - but the majority were from the CM. Thankfully, these sets are also from the CM... so I hope they address the concern here. They are such great looking sets. It would be a shame if the jetpacks aren't utilized.

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Darth_Wicked
05.12.2014 , 01:50 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by dakajojo View Post
I would consider the template issue you describe as a bug. If a jetpack is there, it should be used instead of the animation coming from the character's feet.

The devs have addressed other gear issues in the past - but the majority were from the CM. Thankfully, these sets are also from the CM... so I hope they address the concern here. They are such great looking sets. It would be a shame if the jetpacks aren't utilized.
If it's working correctly taking into account the set of rules defined for said template, then it's not a bug; It's working as originally envisioned or programmed by Bioware.

What we may have here is a mistake in the template they chose for said armor sets.
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dakajojo
05.12.2014 , 01:54 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
Yes please tell him is a "blubble pack" and "thruster" closest thing to a Aquapack like said previously.

Underwater, means Underwater...
I don't need to be told anything. There is no underwater travel in this game. The model includes a jetpack, and it should be used as such. There is no written rule saying a jetpack on an underwater set can't be used anywhere but underwater. In the real world, rockets can go from underwater to the air. (i.e. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aPvGGvnAGQ ) The same should apply here, especially in the Star Wars Universe.