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[BEG] Devs, please don't bolster SM OPS! ...

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Icestar
05.13.2014 , 02:37 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Adaliaya View Post
Even if this would have zero effect to overgeared people's stats I can still foresee people running with Tython gear to avoid repairs and justify ninja-needs would like dev comment about this issue
It will not matter that much if someone ninja-needs on 162 gear or use greens to use bolster to the maximum extent.

They said in some cantina event that the levels will be raised soon anyway

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Toweleeeie
05.13.2014 , 07:21 AM | #52
So if we don't want to use GF, do we get equal amount of comms?

If we don't, F this Bolster noob garbage.
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Reno_Tarshil
05.13.2014 , 07:22 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Toweleeeie View Post
So if we don't want to use GF, do we get equal amount of comms?

If we don't, F this Bolster noob garbage.
It's not garbage getting more people to see the content.
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Never_Hesitate
05.13.2014 , 07:43 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
It's not garbage getting more people to see the content.
Yes, Bolster as a tool to get more people interessted in operations is cool, but as soon as they add it to hm ops they'll lose me. (Don't get me wrong, I don't think they will ever do that)

And I hope the bolster is realised well, if they bolster the people with some random stats (<100% accuracy for dps, accuracy for tanks, alacrity for dps/tanks or something like that) this feature will be pretty useless for underequipped players
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Smuglebunny
05.13.2014 , 07:43 AM | #55
All opposition to this is completely nonsensical.

ONLY SM ops through GF will be bolstered.

SM ops you form on your own will NOT be bolstered. HM ops and NIM not bolstered and why would they ever?

You cant complain about not gettting daily GF comms if you dont do it cuz that would be your choice.
Its not in GF now(other than the2 and they dont pop), you are not getting daily comms now.

NOTHING

NOTHING WHATSOEVER changes for people currently doing SM ops or harder ones.

I have been Que'd for OPS in GF since april and NOT ONE POP!

I would like to do an op for the first time in 2 years of playing. This will facilitate that.

I cannot imagine what sort of valid argument there would possibly be to not do this.

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Never_Hesitate
05.13.2014 , 07:53 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Smuglebunny View Post
All opposition to this is completely nonsensical.
The only opposition I have are the massive amounts of ultimate comms that will be available for this easy content (12/16 from the weekly, 30 from the gf daily, 4 [or were it 6?] from every boss)
and that can be done 4 times a week

This together with the GF change to 16man and craftable 180 gear will produce even more players with "good" gear and no idea of how to play their class.
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Smuglebunny
05.13.2014 , 08:02 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
The only opposition I have are the massive amounts of ultimate comms that will be available for this easy content (12/16 from the weekly, 30 from the gf daily, 4 [or were it 6?] from every boss)
and that can be done 4 times a week

This together with the GF change to 16man and craftable 180 gear will produce even more players with "good" gear and no idea of how to play their class.
Isnt it better if the bads you are forced to play with are at least geared? Wouldnt that be good?

Cuz they are in the game now. But you have a better chance of carring them if you have to if they have better gear. So that doesnt seem like a drawback, to me.

More geared players, faster pops, less wipes.

And they WILL eventually learn to play, especially if they are having fun and progressing.

Plus if they are really bad they will hit a wall at the hardmode anyway without bolster.

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Jeweledleah
05.13.2014 , 08:15 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Lorrimar View Post
my concern is that much like what happened with wow, everyone will stop putting pugs together & start using that horrid raid finder thing.
it is indeed a concern worth noting.

that said, as long as bioware doesn't change the actual mechanics of the fights, only the gear stats, it shouldn't be nearly as bad as in WoW.

as for the "you can change how YOU do things and simply not use something"
it does work for solo play. it doesn't quite work as well for group play, becasue YOU can change what YOU do, but you cannot change what other people chose to do, so if everyone else just goes for groupfinder stuff - good luck finding people for your manual pug.

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Reno_Tarshil
05.13.2014 , 08:18 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
it is indeed a concern worth noting.

that said, as long as bioware doesn't change the actual mechanics of the fights, only the gear stats, it shouldn't be nearly as bad as in WoW.

as for the "you can change how YOU do things and simply not use something"
it does work for solo play. it doesn't quite work as well for group play, becasue YOU can change what YOU do, but you cannot change what other people chose to do, so if everyone else just goes for groupfinder stuff - good luck finding people for your manual pug.
Raid Finder didn't stop people from Pugging Raids..
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Jeweledleah
05.13.2014 , 08:22 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Reno_Tarshil View Post
Raid Finder didn't stop people from Pugging Raids..
no, because normal raids also dropped better gear...

however. before raid finder I could easily find pugs on my server, both for regular stuff, as well as gold DKP runs. after raid finder - those are few and far inbetween (it was part of the reason I stopped trying to play, no matter how much I missed my characters). didn't happen nearly as often. after all.... why actualy make an effort for somewhat better gear, let alone pay gold for it, when you can just do nearly mindless groupfinder stuff?

but like I said, as long as bioware keeps actual mechanics of the fights the same as what you get on manual zone in - shouldn't be so bad.