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Darth Plagueis "new canon"


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Girdeux
04.25.2014 , 08:50 PM | #1
Now that Post-ROTJ EU has been wiped. What most people dont know is that Pre-Episode 1 isnt out of danger yet. With the Darth Plagueis novel considered "legends"by a senior LFL employee. Could it possibly mean a possible Darth Plagueis appearance in the new movies now that he isnt even officially dead?

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Wolfninjajedi
04.25.2014 , 09:17 PM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
Now that Post-ROTJ EU has been wiped. What most people dont know is that Pre-Episode 1 isnt out of danger yet. With the Darth Plagueis novel considered "legends"by a senior LFL employee. Could it possibly mean a possible Darth Plagueis appearance in the new movies now that he isnt even officially dead?
He's still dead, remember Sidious speaking to Anakin in EP 3 about Plagueis?


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revansowns
04.25.2014 , 10:10 PM | #3
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He's still dead, remember Sidious speaking to Anakin in EP 3 about Plagueis?


"Unfortunately he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep."
Sidious is one of the last characters in the saga I would trust.
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Wolfninjajedi
04.25.2014 , 10:19 PM | #4
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Sidious is one of the last characters in the saga I would trust.
Except why would he be lying? Throughout the conversation, he was speaking in depth about Plagueis in the past tense as if he personally knew the guy. So why wouldn't Plagueis be dead?
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Nydus
05.05.2014 , 01:23 PM | #5
I personally don't understand why Palpatine would be talking to dorkface about his own former Master.

From the point of view of the EU, where they have tried to cram in so many force sensitives so they have interesting plot lines and fearsome villains in computer games, I get it, but it has never made sense from the point of view of the movies...

Plagueis sounds like exactly what he is called in Episode III, a "legend". Not a guy who recently got hammered and died behind the curtain. If Plagueis is as important as he is in this book, he would be portrayed in one of the prequel movies!

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Sadishist
05.05.2014 , 03:09 PM | #6
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I personally don't understand why Palpatine would be talking to dorkface about his own former Master.
Maybe because to give backstory in the film?

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t-darko
05.06.2014 , 05:57 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Girdeux View Post
Now that Post-ROTJ EU has been wiped. What most people dont know is that Pre-Episode 1 isnt out of danger yet. With the Darth Plagueis novel considered "legends"by a senior LFL employee. Could it possibly mean a possible Darth Plagueis appearance in the new movies now that he isnt even officially dead?
Rather then looking at the 'Plagueis - novel' from a character standpoint, look to what general conclusions can be drawn from it in ways that includes force history, Jedi and Sith history in general !! In order to create a back story to support the new film, I think that this is a perspective to take in to count when the novel is considered EU, and what creative freedom the writers need from that view.

when it comes to potential bad guy Sith characters I would instead like to draw the attention to the biggest lose end in the prequels; Master Syfa - Dyas !!! Who apparently 'ordered' the Clone Army for the republic, and when Yoda is questioned by Obi-Wan on said Jedi master, Yoda doesn't really answer, but seems to get a severe problem with digesting as he just mutters and makes noises and very fast changes the subject. Master Syfa - Dyas is after that not mentioned again . . . go figure!? Is Palpatine just a pawn of an even greater scheme!!????

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Nydus
05.06.2014 , 02:34 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Sadishist View Post
Maybe because to give backstory in the film?
Or, a reference to "Sith Legend" was made to prove a point to Anikan, and then in order to cash in on people desperate to have every blank filled in a very convoluted story was written.

If the guy was as important as he is in the book, then Lucas would have added him into the movies. As it stands, I doubt "Darth Plagueis" existed until Lucas started writing that very scene.

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Girdeux
05.06.2014 , 04:58 PM | #9
with the apparent working title being "The Ancient Fear" im going to stick with my thoughts that Darth Plagueis is back. Lucas full well knew that during ROTS that one day he was going to make EP7 as Peter Mayhew was already signed up back in 2005.

Bringing in Plagueis allows the trilogy to come full circle

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PavSalco
05.07.2014 , 06:15 AM | #10
Darth Plagueis is the only Dark Lord of the Sith that was mentioned in the movies, so it would be rational to assume that they make him the antagonist of the new trilogy in order to relate to the prequels as well. The fact that he was killed by Sidious doesn't change much. Palpatine also died but it didn't stop him from returning as a clone