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Something I've Noticed About Rpers

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Something I've Noticed About Rpers

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DarthTHC
04.04.2014 , 10:19 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Rion View Post
I personally don't mind all the new armour we're getting, adds more variety to mix and match. But yes it does seem a lot of people seem to want to replicate these characters fully. I mean I've seen a complete clone of Thana Vesh (hair, face, tattoo's) and some running around called Ulic, wearing the full Ulic Qel Droma set.

Unfortunately this game seems to have attracted the worst kind of roleplayers and it doesn't paint the rest of us in a good light for others. There are a good number of decent roleplayers in the game, you just need to find them and cling onto them for dear life.
Not even close. Go to Goldshire on any RP server in WoW.

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OddballEasyEight
04.04.2014 , 10:25 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Yeah, but for them is simpler to point fingers to anyone not thinking their way. How dare I tell them how to play their game? And if they want to roleplay "The bestest Jedi evah!", with what authority I am telling them they are hit in the head? Don`t I know that I am a minority for playing just an average Jedi?

Just look at the hordes asking old armor.. and getting it - all the games`s armors. They want to be Mission Vao, or Thana Vesh, not "My'Story Role'player".
I don't usually roleplay, but when I run into one of those "I am the great grandson of Exar Kuun and I am all spechul and stuff and can't be beaten by anyone" I usually just come up with an equally ridiculous story on the fly for my character and basically challenge them to a "make up stuff" battle :P
It's hilarious to just counter everything they throw at you with something made up, each more ridiculous than the last one until they ragequit.
I mean, this is a multiplayer game. Everyone else is not here to satisfy their ego boost.
The best I did was with my Bounty Hunter when I was on Nar Shaddaa a year or two ago back when the game was new.
Met some guy who was lvl 20+ and my character was around the same level.
He was a sith claiming to be somehow related to the skywalker bloodline (which is kinda silly since anakin was a "virgin birth" in the first place) and making up all kinds of reasons why everyone couldn't beat him.
Most were just playing along or ignoring him (presumably to placate him), but I decided to take up the fight when he "attacked" me for not bowing to him.
I started off using all kinds of gadgets and he always wrote some magical way to escape them even tho he couldn't possibly deflect all the rockets, flames and stun darts I was tossing his way.
Finally I jumped behind a pillar (I think) and wrote that I detonated the bomb I had placed in the area we were in two days earlier to which he replied that I was cheating.
I told him I was here to hunt a target that I knew was going to arrive soon, but springing my trap early to take him out was worth it.
He got really angry and told me he used a force bubble to protect himself and I asked him how he was going to protect himself if the explosion was powerful enough to blow away an entire block of the building.
He said something along the lines of "I'm invincible and you are just a maggot" and logged off.

Sometimes I just can't help myself. It's wrong and I know it, but he was ruining everyone elses RP'ing session.

(Oh and as for those asking for the old armour from KotOR, it's not because the want to be mission vao. It's because those armour sets look good. Most people mix and match... I rarely see anyone dressed in a full outfit, unless it's revan )
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Wylf
04.04.2014 , 10:25 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Not even close. Go to Goldshire on any RP server in WoW.
Don't. Just... don't. I went there. Scarred me for life. The things I've seen... *PTSD flashback*
'Twas right, said they, such birds to slay
that bring the fog and mist

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Darth-Rion
04.04.2014 , 11:37 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Not even close. Go to Goldshire on any RP server in WoW.
I don't know how it is these days, but Goldshire on Earthen Ring when I left 3 years ago was abandoned. I did however, take a trip to Argent Dawn...

Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
Don't. Just... don't. I went there. Scarred me for life. The things I've seen... *PTSD flashback*
This. Except it was the things I -DIDN'T- see o.o
What I saw were numerous scantily clad night elves, dreanaei, humans, a number of gnomes and a dwarf, along with a smaller number of males all just... standing. No movements. Just placed around the inn, atop tables, atop the railing, infront of the fire... silence.
Yet, in the far of distance, somewhere in the back of my mind, I could hear the frantic typing, visualise the atrocities of nature happening in in /whisper among them all... *shudder*

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Pagy
04.04.2014 , 12:25 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Wylf View Post
I haven't finished it myself, so maybe you could elaborate?

However, the class storyline has only a very, very slim impact on roleplay. It's absolutely impossible for every character to be the character they played in their class story, for the simple reason that this would result in a giant paradox. Thousands of agents that all kill the same target. We could even get a Schrödingers Cat scenario, really. You get the choice to kill someone or leave him alive? So if every character uses his class storyline in the general RP we have tons of NPC that are both alive and dead at the same time. It's simply not possible.
Once you realize that it should quickly become clear that the character a roleplayer actually portraits has little to do with the character the class storyline tells you it is. For example, my Trooper isn't Havoc leader, she's a mercenary that just happens to use the Trooper class. My Jedi Sage is no Barsen'Thor, she's a simple Jedi Knight, like they exist by the thousands.

With Agents and Bounty hunters that creates the problem that, in theory, every Sith they meet could very well kill them without any problem whatsoever. Technically a member of imperial intelligence (if the character is played as one) should follow a Siths Orders to the letter, otherwise he'd risk death.
That being said, most Sith are sh*t. Like, played by absolutely terrible roleplayers. Obeying them would severly hinder my enjoyment of the game... so usually I just tend to ignore them as best as I can, when playing my agent or bounty hunter.
this is all mostly addressed in the IA/BH storylines

they are both trained killers, and while there are undoubtedly sith/jedi more powerful than them, they can handle themselves and do with regularity in their storylines. same principle applies to inqs/warriros. they aren't the most powerful sith out there either.

the IA finale has many many possibilities and too many spoilers.

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Wylf
04.04.2014 , 12:28 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
this is all mostly addressed in the IA/BH storylines

they are both trained killers, and while there are undoubtedly sith/jedi more powerful than them, they can handle themselves and do with regularity in their storylines. same principle applies to inqs/warriros. they aren't the most powerful sith out there either.

the IA finale has many many possibilities and too many spoilers.
You completely ignored everything my post said.
'Twas right, said they, such birds to slay
that bring the fog and mist

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Kalfear
04.04.2014 , 01:03 PM | #57
WOW people jumping to conclusions here

I read the OP post and it reads to me as a NON RPer whining about RPers not grovelling to him
It DOES NOT read as a RPer complaining about the RP between him and other RPers.

When I read things about how everyone wants to be a god character that tells me straight up the person posting that has NEVER Role Played in their life in a MMORPG.
Because the statement simply is not true.
Not even remotely.
Most real RPers will give their characters faults and weaknesses to improve the Role Play
Its the NON RPers who act like they are GOD LIKE and then complain (like OP doing) that the RP crowd doesn't worship them.

You all might wanna get your "facts" straight on real RPing behavior before you toss out anymore completely false and uneducated opinions on the matter.

A RPer NOT grovelling to some kid doesn't mean they don't RP.
Just means they don't with that kid
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OddballEasyEight
04.04.2014 , 01:11 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalfear View Post
WOW people jumping to conclusions here

I read the OP post and it reads to me as a NON RPer whining about RPers not grovelling to him
It DOES NOT read as a RPer complaining about the RP between him and other RPers.

When I read things about how everyone wants to be a god character that tells me straight up the person posting that has NEVER Role Played in their life in a MMORPG.
Because the statement simply is not true.
Not even remotely.
Most real RPers will give their characters faults and weaknesses to improve the Role Play
Its the NON RPers who act like they are GOD LIKE and then complain (like OP doing) that the RP crowd doesn't worship them.

You all might wanna get your "facts" straight on real RPing behavior before you toss out anymore completely false and uneducated opinions on the matter.

A RPer NOT grovelling to some kid doesn't mean they don't RP.
Just means they don't with that kid
Not to be a stickler, but anyone who RP's is an RP'er... just because you don't consider them "real" RP'ers doesn't make it so.
They might not be good RP'ers, but they still roleplay.
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Thoronmir
04.04.2014 , 02:30 PM | #59
Just in his class story, my Bounty Hunter sassed plenty of Darths and Sith Lords along the way ... and he has the lightning burns to prove it. So there is hardly a fixed rule about the degree of deference a BH or Agent "must" give a Sith.

One problem is that there are about as many theories on "proper" RP as there are RPers. I've been RPing for more than 30 years and have RPed in plenty of MMOs. In my opinion, good RP is a collaboration. Few random RP encounters end well because they too often involve some player's "irresistible force" bumping into some other player's "immovable object." Few players want to be "lorded over" by some stranger they met at the cantina (I'm trying to avoid any ERP implications ). Absent some degree of give and take, random RP usually isn't worth the effort.

Anyone RPing a Sith who stumbles around Fleet expecting every BH and Agent to bow and scrape is, in my opinion, doing it wrong. And probably playing a pretty shallow character as well. Players who excel at random RP can adjust on the fly to help make the experience fun for everyone involved. Because, ya know, I'm not there just to play some NPC in your world.

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Kaisernick
04.04.2014 , 02:50 PM | #60
since i rp with my guild my sith has never had this problem.
at first i was a low level sith even at lvl 40 i wore the acolyte title and RP as such but after many months i was promoted to Lord.

now my warriors backstory is yes hes eveil but he isnt a dick in fact he regularly feels that the non force sensitives in the empire are heroes and are treated as equals, unless they betray him or screw up really really bad (i mean loose a entire fleet due to incompetence) but he is still a evil sith he kills pubs and jedi at every chance.

That IMO is a true sith not some nutcase who kills imp simply for fun.