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Devs at the latest cantina: Class Story, not at the moment...

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Devs at the latest cantina: Class Story, not at the moment...

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TUXs
03.25.2014 , 03:14 PM | #181
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It took me 9 months the first time.
Geezus dude, creating human LIFE doesn't take that long for some....get your priorities straight
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AlienEyeTX
03.25.2014 , 04:00 PM | #182
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Geezus dude, creating human LIFE doesn't take that long for some....get your priorities straight
Funny you mention that. Care to guess why I still only have two 55s?
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ikinai
03.25.2014 , 04:08 PM | #183
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Funny you mention that. Care to guess why I still only have two 55s?
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TUXs
03.25.2014 , 05:24 PM | #184
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You made a robot?
Ooooh!!! Good guess ikinai...
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dewayne
03.25.2014 , 05:40 PM | #185
while i like the class stories, I like the mqakeb arc too. So Im happy either way long as they remember our companions
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Torcatoth
03.25.2014 , 07:45 PM | #186
I've seen some very wierd responses but let me gime my (another) two cents.

As i said asking for more class story is NOT against any rule on an MMO, what you fail realising is that this particular MMO was sold on the promise of it! So it's absolutly logical that players will ask for it, even today it's still sold as an story-driven MMO. So that point made let's go on.

Second space combat is not on anny tradicional MMO and is greatly cherished by many of the current playerbase, and You have to remember once again this MMO is not targeted for only classic (and by that I mean WoW former players) MMO players it's targeted also for Star Wars fans, and has you may notice they do like ops and pvp and gsf and whatever but they love more than anything story content.

On another point makeb was a very small expansion only a 5 level raise is not something that (arguably) developers can work around a class story, but if the level cap raises is in fact different because they have levels to develop a 4rth act. And why is this important?
Because makeb was grinding. Although it was a different grinding that people are used to it was grinding, pure and simple and you don't want to do it with your alts because it's boring. So it's harder for many to level up they're chars and stick with the game. But isn't class quest grinding also? Of course it is! But it feels different it gets you involved and gets you interested with all your different AC's.

And for the guy it says that people who left the game don't matter. I never heard anything so (let me be kind) unthinkable. Why? Because they matter and they matter so much. Subscribers or not any MMO player knows that being in a MMO with loads of people is far better that desert isles with rare sightings of a living person. That should be enough, but it's not the only reason, few people can play this game as a free-to-play, seeing the best looking items in the cartel market, and not being able to buy them by credits, and all the restrictions made make them quickly at least change to preferes, thai is also bad and they tend to change to subs. Even if it's only to level and then leave game till another patch/expansion it's still revenue for EA/bioware and that allows then to work on more awsome raids, pvp, gsf and engame everythings we unleaving players love.

So is it legitimate to say bioware is making a mystake on not putting more class quest? Of course there is.
Put it like this if you want, intead of now givving you new raids tjey will buff all the ancient ones EV, EC, KP and make a chain quest and at the ending you will have some new tear gear? Would you be happy? It's still new content because they would change mechanics and could add a boss or too, but it would be the most borring thing ever.

Galactir starfighting was asked since the begining of the game, I myself asked loads of time for player housing, all these things make this game great so bashing and try to justify that bioware should put more effort on other things when pve and pvp are NOW constantly getting they're hands on cool new stuff is just wrong. It makes you seem like an angry kid for nothing. They don't need advocates to defend themselves againts those cruel and evil story lovers. And many have told me if you don't have anything nice to say don't say nothing at all. Remember this:
Just because someone else asked for a thing that you don't value or that you are not interested in dosen't make theire plead a bad thing, we can all get what we want, and player housing and GSF proves that. Don't be small minded.

PS: Stay strong fellow class story fans there will be expansions this year and Bio are still in time to listen to our prays, keep showing that you exist. You are not alone
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NoFishing
03.25.2014 , 09:03 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Torcatoth View Post
Galactir starfighting was asked since the begining of the game, I myself asked loads of time for player housing, all these things make this game great so bashing and try to justify that bioware should put more effort on other things when pve and pvp are NOW constantly getting they're hands on cool new stuff is just wrong. It makes you seem like an angry kid for nothing. They don't need advocates to defend themselves againts those cruel and evil story lovers. And many have told me if you don't have anything nice to say don't say nothing at all. Remember this: Just because someone else asked for a thing that you don't value or that you are not interested in dosen't make theire plead a bad thing, we can all get what we want, and player housing and GSF proves that. Don't be small minded.
Except that "cool new stuff" of housing and GSF is clearly coming at the expense of both (ground) PvP and PvE. Bioware seems content to let ranked PvP wither and die. Ground PvP is finally getting their first new WZ since 1.6, unless you count arenas, which came with the removal of 8v8 ranked. And going a year or more between new operations is something Bioware has never allowed to happen before.

I'm not saying GSF and housing shouldn't exist, or that they don't appeal to some segment of the players. But you seem to want to claim that these things are coming along with new PvE and PvP content, and that just doesn't ring true.

So I want story content as much as the next person. But if you force me to choose between small independent class-based stories, or larger faction-based stories, I'd rather have them faction based.

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arunav
03.25.2014 , 09:53 PM | #188
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Except that "cool new stuff" of housing and GSF is clearly coming at the expense of both (ground) PvP and PvE. Bioware seems content to let ranked PvP wither and die. Ground PvP is finally getting their first new WZ since 1.6, unless you count arenas, which came with the removal of 8v8 ranked. And going a year or more between new operations is something Bioware has never allowed to happen before.

I'm not saying GSF and housing shouldn't exist, or that they don't appeal to some segment of the players. But you seem to want to claim that these things are coming along with new PvE and PvP content, and that just doesn't ring true.

So I want story content as much as the next person. But if you force me to choose between small independent class-based stories, or larger faction-based stories, I'd rather have them faction based.
The trouble is, as a "large faction story," Makeb sucked.

Most of the planetary arcs in the leveling 1-50 game were better, and they were just one aspect of questing, alongside Class and side-quest stories and heroics.

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NoFishing
03.25.2014 , 10:07 PM | #189
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The trouble is, as a "large faction story," Makeb sucked.
Really? You thought the imperial Makeb story sucked?

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Arkerus
03.25.2014 , 10:22 PM | #190
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The trouble is, as a "large faction story," Makeb sucked.

Most of the planetary arcs in the leveling 1-50 game were better, and they were just one aspect of questing, alongside Class and side-quest stories and heroics.
Speak for yourself, I thought Makeb had a great story.

It wasn't war and peace but it certainly didn't suck.
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