Swtor has nothing to fear from Wildstar!

You also have been making the same death proclamations as AshenK.. and for just about as long. So it's absolutely no surprise here to see you each patting each other on the back. You have even been threatening to quit for more then a year now too.. but here you are.

It must be awful for you both to see that after two years of declaring it's death.... 1) it's still alive, and doing well 2) you are still paying to play your "dead" game.

It's OK if you don't like an MMO. It's OK to go play one you do actually like (though I'm not at all sure either of you actually like any MMO really). It's not necessary for you to try to scorch the forums on the way to your next adventure.

It will however be fun to watch you both attacking Wildstar in their forums after it goes live.

Actually FAN BOY, you're putting words in my mouth because I haven't. If you bothered to read what I said, the game DID die - the facts are out there and unlike you, I posted a link to sources. Where's yours to prove the game is increasing in subs or getting busier?

People like you are just so blinkered and sad because you only see one side of the debate and not everything. Thank god you won't be in WIldstar

Actually FAN BOY, you're putting words in my mouth because I haven't. If you bothered to read what I said, the game DID die - the facts are out there and unlike you, I posted a link to sources. Where's yours to prove the game is increasing in subs or getting busier?

People like you are just so blinkered and sad because you only see one side of the debate and not everything. Thank god you won't be in WIldstar

Well... I don't know what you may or may not have said. I'm too lazy to look, but you are qualifying as a fact that this game died and it did not. .

Now to be more specific, in one game, from start you have things like:

• Chat Bubbles
• UI Mods
• Housing
• Gear tabs
• Nice shadows
• World PvP
• Arenas
• 3D exploration
• Maps you can browse with scale consistency
• Walking animations that sucks

If Wildstar manages to survive the 6 months without losing over 60% of its subs then it would be deemed more successful than SWTOR.

If you are too lazy to look, I am too lazy to explain it again. Get off your arse and check the history book - 8 months after launch when subs dropped by 1 million, Bioware left the game in despair with zero communication and players were crying for server mergers.

That qualifies as DEAD. You probably arrived after F2P.

If Wildstar manages to survive the 6 months without losing over 60% of its subs then it would be deemed more successful than SWTOR.

I think if Wildstar can get past some of the bug problems they have now (IMO the game is nowhere near being ready to launch, same as this one was) they have a chance at a good healthy run. The engine seems decent and the feature list is full.

However, this game at this point is much more polished. Naturally this one has had two years to get there.

I think there is room in the market for both games.