Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

Everything they did was by the book for assassins they didnt do anything to crazy or unpredictable, thats definition of by the book. Now by the book works thats why in most ops special operations members or assassins will 90% of the time do it by the book, but there are occassions when by the book just doesnt work and Guri and Proxy have never gone off the beaten path of assassination tactics.


Well there you go, you have shown precendence for that kind of tactic, that said though again its IMPOSSIBLE to program unpredictable war tactics. You can be programmed with all the known tactics in the galaxy and then still find yourself out maneuvered by one some one just made up out of no where that as far as you can tell makes no sense, but because its a tactic they have never seen they have no idea what to do or how to react, that is the deffinition of by the book, something that droid commanders are ONLY capable of as their tactics are programmed into them rather then thought up on the spot.

They're not tacticians. Neither has lead a successful military operation in their entire existences. None of the DS's droids were programed, designed, or intended to carry out this task. Even if they were, I've yet to see a droid that can consistently outthink an organic commander and win battles. There are droid commanders that have won before, but they are few, far between, and specifically designed for that one task. Even then they still didn't completely dominate during their time like Garm, Koon, and Kenobi did.

Again, Garm has seen and/or used such unconventional tactics. Not to mention, good luck blasting apart SD's with mine droids, the sheer number it would take would drain DS resources very quickly and take away from production of more useful things.

XD Lol, that wasn't what I meant. I just brought up the mine droids as an example of when G0-T0 has used droids committing suicide to kill his enemies. This would be applied on the battle field as suicide bombing the enemy ships.

Of course I wouldn't expect the DS to blow up AE ships with tiny probe droids.

You gotta admit that that would be funny.

Good, good... I was worried there for a sec And yeah I understand the idea, I just think Garm would be used to it by now that it's effectiveness would quickly be diminished to the point it wouldn't be cost effective.

This doesn't make any sense. Droids do not work on a step by step basis.

Look at droid pilots. Are you telling me that they are not constantly adapting to the battlefield and the movement of enemy ships? Are you saying they don't formulate new flight plans and evasive maneuvers in order to avoid destruction? Are you saying that they fly in straight lines?

"By the book"? In order to be "by the book" you have to allow for adaptation of your tactics. "By the book" commanders still change their plans and strategies to best suit the situation at hand. What you're saying is that droids are not able to adapt to new situations. That is wrong. Droids are able to exceed their programming when they are exposed to new scenarios. In fact, Nute Gunray said to OOM-9 that the droid had "preformed beyond his parameters." Was 4-LOM supposed to become a bounty hunter? Was G0-T0 supposed to become a crime lord? Was R2-D2 supposed to safely carry Death Star plans? No. But they did, because their programming is not static, and they constantly adapt to their environment and the circumstances preventing them from achieving their objectives.

Whoe, whoa, whoa. You get OOM-9? How did that happen? I don't even get Cody dangnabit!

I mean, it doesn't matter. The DS can easily just program another droid with similar tactical abilities. I'm just using OOM-9 as an example of what Trade Federation Army droids can do tactics-wise.

Well good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTmIwOLfUlM

31:20-33:20 He trounces hordes of droid pilots and then finds that the one he is fighting afterwards is definately not a droid. Clearly droids have limitations in this department. We get machines all the time that preform slightly better then is expected, that does not mean they have gone beyond the basis of their programming. It was still using conventional tactics it just so happened that it was choosing those tactics much better then they expected it to.


While they can respond to any conventional tactic with another conventional tactic of their own fairly easily, its when the enemy uses an unknown unconventional tactic for which the droid doesnt have a programmed response to, thats when it trips up and delays or makes a bad judgement call, droids can not comprehend the unorthodox they are just not programmed that way.