Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Kaggath Tournament Finals - Ascending Empire vs Droid Supremacy

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Beniboybling

03.17.2014 , 04:46 PM \| #381	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial And again, you need exact ship specifications. This is no where stated, all that is stated is that in made them more effective, not viable. Obviously if missile explodes in your face and drops drill droids onto your ship you are in trouble. Lets not make silly assumptions with no basis like "they'll fall off because YOLO"
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Warren-Stride

03.17.2014 , 04:53 PM \| #382	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere G0-T0's resources are limited. He doesn't have the troops and ships to win a pitched war against the AE. His only option is assassination, because he can't win militarily. So the strategy is valid. See, this is why I don't like this renumbering thing. Your fleets are basically at full strength. The Black Sun Navy, at its height? At least 7,000 ships. Both of your smaller fleets get full strength and mine gets nerfed into oblivion. But let's be real here. AE fleet 1% Flagship 15% Capital ships 30% Frigate ships 54% Support ships So that means 1 Executor 8 Star Destroyers 15 Victory-class 27 Tartan Patrol craft Not as all-mighty and powerful as you seem to think.
~~ AiR ~~ What are you more afraid of? A weapon that could destroy you? Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

Beniboybling

03.17.2014 , 04:55 PM \| #383	Quote
I think the argument was made before though that the TIE fighters have a slim profile and therefore would be difficult to latch on to. But really if a buzz droid lands on the cockpit the pilot is pretty much screwed. Just drill. But really the Imperial fleets used TIE-fighters far less decisively than the Republic. They were more fodder than anything else, the emphasis was placed on the capital ships to win the battles.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Selenial

03.17.2014 , 04:58 PM \| #384	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Shields are shields, you have to destroy the shield generator either way no? What's the difference? Maybe, maybe not. Anakin had to properly fight his way to the shield generator on Geonosis, the cities of Kamino are already small arenas so no back doors and unguarded territory etc. there, and Nar Shaddaa - well good luck finding the shield generators lol. Not that Mothma would ever orbitally bombard a planet wide city. Or Kamino for that matter. Maybe Geonosis. But even the Republic planted munitions. BSD tactics are brutal, they don't just destroy the target, they reduce the area surrounding it to molten slag. Not pretty. Easier to bypass as in a lot more ways to infiltrate it, only way to get through a planetary shield is to charge right through. Nar Shadaa is useless to attack unless G0-T0 is there, it's really not that useful of a planet. Kamino I guess, but those platforms are again small, meaning droids that rely to be En masse need Terror droids to even have a chance against the 212th. But yeh, the Republic destroyed Geonosis, they tried to destroy everything, Planting munitions and BDZ wouldn't be THAT different...
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Selenial

03.17.2014 , 05:00 PM \| #385	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride Not as all-mighty and powerful as you seem to think. I Lol'd. That executor alone could take about half your fleet down No but seriously, that executor is worth like 30 ISD's, it's a monstrosity.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Aurbere

03.17.2014 , 05:00 PM \| #386	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride See, this is why I don't like this renumbering thing. Your fleets are basically at full strength. The Black Sun Navy, at its height? At least 7,000 ships. Both of your smaller fleets get full strength and mine gets nerfed into oblivion. But let's be real here. AE fleet 1% Flagship 15% Capital ships 30% Frigate ships 44% Support ships So that means 1 Executor 8 Star Destroyers 15 Victory-class 22 Tartan Patrol craft Not as all-mighty and powerful as you seem to think. I have 50 ships...
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall "Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

Warren-Stride

03.17.2014 , 05:01 PM \| #387	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere I have 50 ships... Sorry, I messed up on the math and made the Tartan 44% instead of 54%. Fixed it.
~~ AiR ~~ What are you more afraid of? A weapon that could destroy you? Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

Beniboybling

03.17.2014 , 05:02 PM \| #388	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride Sorry, I messed up on the math and made the Tartan 44% instead of 54%. Fixed it. Given that we basically know what the make up of his fleets are, I suggest you look them up. There are no Tartan Patrol Cruisers for one and ultimately these statistics are arbitrary.
"No game of dejarik can be won without pawns... and this may prove to be a very long game." ~ Kreia Darth Traya: Waiting in the Dark& Part Two: A Fragile Alliance

Selenial

03.17.2014 , 05:04 PM \| #389	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Given that we basically know what the make up of his fleets are, I suggest you look them up. There are no Tartan Patrol Cruisers for one and ultimately these statistics are arbitrary. Pretty much this, again, Tarkin decided that having Big ships scares people, so thats what they should have. And that pretty much happened because it ended up being tactically sound.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.

Warren-Stride

03.17.2014 , 05:07 PM \| #390	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling Given that we basically know what the make up of his fleets are, I suggest you look them up. There are no Tartan Patrol Cruisers for one and ultimately these statistics are arbitrary. So wait, are we using real, unnerfed numbers for the AE? This just keeps getting better and better. I get 200 out of 7,000 ships, nobody cares about the Venators or the MC80s, and the Black Sun Fleet is reduced to only Interceptor-class frigates due to in-game mechanics. But let's give the AE fleets 40 Star Destroyers and 10 frigates. Oh, and a virtual superweapon. I was actually being generous. Thrawn's fleet has no Victory-class Star Destroyers. And it's "picket ships" are pathetic. I think I'm going to go back into spectator mode and watch the DS get crushed in space due to nerfs and technicalities of rules that are completely subjective.
~~ AiR ~~ What are you more afraid of? A weapon that could destroy you? Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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