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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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Official Petition: Please DO NOT create another tier of PvP gear for 2.7

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TezMoney
02.23.2014 , 09:21 PM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoom_VI View Post
Question: How is this petition official? Did we get the UN to endorse it?
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ParagonAX
02.24.2014 , 09:05 AM | #152
Quote: Originally Posted by Sheike View Post
We spent a disgusting amount of time grinding and mid/maxing our Obroan sets, having all that work and toil stepped on and kicked to the side just so we can be told that we have to do all that work over again makes one very much inclined to quit. It wouldn't be such a big deal if there were actually a respectable number of diverse maps to play, but there aren't. Do not make us grind through another set.
Exactly... gear progression in PvE is quit different because you are fighting harder and harder mobs with each new operation. But PvP gear progression is utterly useless and has no benefit to players whatsoever.
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Raansu
02.24.2014 , 11:15 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by ParagonAX View Post
Exactly... gear progression in PvE is quit different because you are fighting harder and harder mobs with each new operation. But PvP gear progression is utterly useless and has no benefit to players whatsoever.
The gear progression exists in pvp because of pve. Or would you prefer to do oricon in level 50 champion gear?

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Evolixe
02.24.2014 , 11:19 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
The gear progression exists in pvp because of pve. Or would you prefer to do oricon in level 50 champion gear?
I would prefer nobody cared. Because im not bothered either.

If you want to PvE so bad, you can exchange your comms for planetary comms and you can buy 58 mods from the makeb vendor. Those will do just fine.
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ParagonAX
02.24.2014 , 11:22 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
The gear progression exists in pvp because of pve. Or would you prefer to do oricon in level 50 champion gear?
Already addressed time and time again.

- Obroan destroys 78s in OWPVP.
- Obroan will destroy top tier PvE gear in OWPVP even if 2 more tiers of PvE gear comes out.
- Obroan is way more than enough for single-player PvE content, including soloing heroic 2+ on Oricon. And what is this nonsense talk about level 50 champion gear? lolwtf?

This proposal is not for halting PvP gear progression FOREVER. We're simply saying a new tier for 2.7 is too soon, and useless, with much more pressing issues to address.
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02.24.2014 , 11:23 AM | #156
If they do introduce it can they at least have the weapons be better then bolstered lvl 44 blues this time..
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ParagonAX
02.24.2014 , 11:25 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by AngusFTW View Post
If they do introduce it can they at least have the weapons be better then bolstered lvl 44 blues this time..
I already talked to a credible source whose friend's cousin's husband's nephew's best friend is a BW employee.

Level 48 blues will be BiS in 2.7.
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countpopeula
02.24.2014 , 11:42 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by DanNV View Post
No, they don't need a new tier of PVE gear, either. Adding it is stupid. They need more content that people can play. Adding new gear just means old content doesn't get played hardly at all, so you still only have 3 or 4 things to do, if you're lucky. If they added new content that used the same gear, you'd increase the number of things to rotate through. That'd be a good thing and people wouldn't get bored as fast. As it is, they put out a set of dailies a FP and maybe an OP. People grind the gear playing them, get bored and stop playing because there isn't anything else to do with the gear they've got that isn't so easy it's boring. Continually adding new gear is a really poor design decision. Really poor. They'd be better off to add new looks (please no more terribly stupid looking hats/helmets), new mounts, etc. that you would need the comms to buy. That works for PVE or PVP. (And if they'd dump expertise and put a stat min and max on WZs, it'd be even better.)
This is retarded. I don't play old content because I've cleared it dozens upon dozens of times. By design raids cannot get more difficult once they've hit NiM. I don't avoid EV/KP/EC because they're too easy, I avoid them because I can still remember ALL of the fight mechanics after having not been in them for well over a year. That is not fun or interesting to me. Gear is the only thing that keeps us entering instance once we've tagged up on the Progression rankings/titled. We learn more, we refine communication and precision, we get better because of the grind.

In PvP, adding another tier of gear does not solve the underlying problems with the system. Class imbalances because everything is lazy percent based. Bolster gear being better than the most expensive pieces of Obroan. 8v ranked is gone. No incentive to do Ranked Arenas other than competition, and don't even try to bring up the Rancor mount because lol@1500 rating, you can get that in a matter of days doing YOLO queues. There are so many things that need to happen to PvP before more gear gets tossed at us, bigger stats is only going to exacerbate current balance issues because again, everything is percent based scalars.
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countpopeula
02.24.2014 , 11:44 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by ParagonAX View Post
Already addressed time and time again.

- Obroan destroys 78s in OWPVP.
- Obroan will destroy top tier PvE gear in OWPVP even if 2 more tiers of PvE gear comes out.
- Obroan is way more than enough for single-player PvE content, including soloing heroic 2+ on Oricon. And what is this nonsense talk about level 50 champion gear? lolwtf?

This proposal is not for halting PvP gear progression FOREVER. We're simply saying a new tier for 2.7 is too soon, and useless, with much more pressing issues to address.
You can add in that Obroan is enough to hold your own in HM DF/DP, provided the rest of the group is geared/high skill level.
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Raansu
02.24.2014 , 01:41 PM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by ParagonAX View Post
Already addressed time and time again.

- Obroan destroys 78s in OWPVP.
- Obroan will destroy top tier PvE gear in OWPVP even if 2 more tiers of PvE gear comes out.
- Obroan is way more than enough for single-player PvE content, including soloing heroic 2+ on Oricon. And what is this nonsense talk about level 50 champion gear? lolwtf?

This proposal is not for halting PvP gear progression FOREVER. We're simply saying a new tier for 2.7 is too soon, and useless, with much more pressing issues to address.
How is it too soon? Obroan has been out for several months now. Most people who do ranked have been fully geared for months. For those that do it the long way...well tough like I guess. Its not luck you will suffer by only having tier 1.