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tactical flashpoints or worst fp ever.


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morfius
02.05.2014 , 07:57 AM | #51
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Did this with my guild last night and the whole experience was as flat as a pancake, unfortunately this is a result of F2P with everything being dumbed down to accommodate for a more social player base. Gone are the days where we are going to get challenging end game content.
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Beslley
02.05.2014 , 08:17 AM | #52
I gotta say, Kuat is really underwhelming, especially when you compare it to the czerka SMs.
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Cordorian
02.05.2014 , 08:20 AM | #53
Quite franky I think it is one of the better ideas BW had.

Did it with my lowbie shadow tank and some friends twice. I like that can basically group up with everybody below 55, so due to asynchronous leveling speed, it makes it easier to do it as a group. XP is good and it is a bit dynamic, so it isnt always the same way. I do not consider it interesting endgame wise. But it is a nice addition as leveling content. If you have seen all the storys and have done all the old fps a zillion times, it is just nice to have something new.

It is not challenging but that is what operations are for basically.
Doesn't mean i am not in for a new HM FP LI style. Maybe they can introduce nightmare modes:P

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Never_Hesitate
02.05.2014 , 08:27 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Beslley View Post
I gotta say, Kuat is really underwhelming, especially when you compare it to the czerka SMs.
The czerka sm FPs where you have one perons standing next to the medpack and ignore every mechanic, just killing the bosses without much movement?
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DeCaPtN
02.05.2014 , 08:34 AM | #55
I think it is exactly what it is supposed to be. This was not meant as an endgame flashpoint. Hopefully HM will be added soon with some decent rewards and until then I'll work towards being able to solo the last couple of bosses (got major Benes down to a routine pretty easily)
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Beslley
02.05.2014 , 08:40 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
The czerka sm FPs where you have one perons standing next to the medpack and ignore every mechanic, just killing the bosses without much movement?
I never said the czerka FPs were perfect, just that they felt much more like a flashpoint than...this thing we got this patch.
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Never_Hesitate
02.05.2014 , 08:48 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Beslley View Post
I never said the czerka FPs were perfect, just that they felt much more like a flashpoint than...this thing we got this patch.
To me the czerka sm FPs feel as easy and boring as BT/esseles (minus all the conversations), which is not the case for lvl 15-54 KDY.
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jedimasterjac
02.05.2014 , 08:51 AM | #58
"Challenging End-Game Content." While I can't find your specific lien, I'll quote the important part. I'm not sure if you payed any attention to the devs on this, but this Flashpoint wasn't intended to be "challenging end-game content." The flashpoint wouldn't be available to so many levels, if that were the case. Your other statements are also quite fallacious, you're making an assumption that free-to-play is causing this, yet can't provide evidence for this claim, merely assumptions.

While I myself have not yet experienced the new flashpoint, I plan to take it for what it is: a fairly simple run-through that I can use as a time-waste.

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eartharioch
02.05.2014 , 08:59 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Beslley View Post
I gotta say, Kuat is really underwhelming, especially when you compare it to the czerka SMs.
TBH, I don't like CZ SMs that much, mainly because they play exactly like a StrategicTM [i.e., non-Tactical, or 'regular"] flashpoint that's been dumbed down too much. Specifically, since CZ HMs are "regular" flashpoints, I found the SM->HM transition difficult because I rarely ever had a Tank+Heal+2xDPS SM run, which meant no real way to practice the mechanics before hitting HM.

I think the fact that there is no HM Kuat is good, although I would definitely not mind seeing one as long as it keeps the tactical feel and doesn't just become a standard Burger/Movie/BackSeat (trinity) affair.

If you wanted *another* trinity fp with lots of story scenes through which people will yell at you to spacebar by the end of Day 1, you probably won't like Kuat that much. I don't want BW to cut story all together, but I don't mind seeing them trying new things.
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Beslley
02.05.2014 , 11:15 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by eartharioch View Post
TBH, I don't like CZ SMs that much, mainly because they play exactly like a StrategicTM [i.e., non-Tactical, or 'regular"] flashpoint that's been dumbed down too much. Specifically, since CZ HMs are "regular" flashpoints, I found the SM->HM transition difficult because I rarely ever had a Tank+Heal+2xDPS SM run, which meant no real way to practice the mechanics before hitting HM.

I think the fact that there is no HM Kuat is good, although I would definitely not mind seeing one as long as it keeps the tactical feel and doesn't just become a standard Burger/Movie/BackSeat (trinity) affair.

If you wanted *another* trinity fp with lots of story scenes through which people will yell at you to spacebar by the end of Day 1, you probably won't like Kuat that much. I don't want BW to cut story all together, but I don't mind seeing them trying new things.
Fair enough.
I do like the traditional instance model (trash, boss, trash, boss) along with the story, even if I space bar through it after the first time.
Personal preference.
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