Dark side/light side points cap

I completely agree with the original poster on this. When i started to play i was looking forward to actually getting into the story and being able to make my own choises depending on the situation. With this system however im forced to go for only one side unless i want to gimp my character, which means that i can't really enjoy the story and just have to grind towards one alignment.

As original thread was moved I'm reposting it with slight changes to avoid spoilers.

There is a dark side/light side points cap.
In order to achieve dark/light side rank you need to have a cap of these points and no points of different alignment. Thus aquiring any points of opposite alignment will cause you to be unable to ever reach dark/light side rank V.
This is false. My 50 agent, I accidently chose a couple of Dark Side options while level. She is currently Light V, with 0 Dark Side points. When you get that high, the dark side points begin to disappear. Since hitting 50, I have made the same mistake a couple of times and managed to go back up to Light V. Yes, at V if you chose the opposite you will lose it, but you can easily gain those points back again.


Also it also causes your moral choices from once you are capped to have no impact on your character alignment (you can only get further away from it but only to point of total neutrality).
Again, false. With enough work you can ping-pong yourself between Light and Dark V. There are more than enough ways in the game to do this.

Frankly I believe this to be a tremendous mistake. While I almost absoluteley love this game and am defending it on almost every occasion (I'm very pleased by both the game and customer support so far) I see that as a huge, enormously big flaw.

First of all it makes light side/dark side choices more about being forced to stick to predefined path, without any customization into your toon morals. At least not if you want to access highest tier alignment gier. So basically if you have ever aquired any points of ooposite alignment your toon is gimped.

Second is being unable to shift alignment once capped. A Jedi can never fall, a Sith can never get redemption.

I can understand reason for a cap. But IMO you should be able to move towards full dark/light side. It could be done just by deducting newly aquired points from your opposite alignment and then adding them to chosen one. Maybe at slower rate. Just not at percantage system as this would make reaching max impossible.

I believe there are many players who have, in some degree, mixed alignment. They won't be EVER able to use highest tier relics.
Also, one mistake on alignment option will cause them to be forever unable to use highest tier relics.

It's irreversible choice which does affect endgame play.

Share your oppinions. Maybe BW will ackowledge the problem and make some changes.

The rest is centered around your false observations so unless I am bugged specifically with my ability to go to Light V even with the occasional darkside option, then this entire thread is moot. The only thing that is an actual complaint, and one I agree with fully, is being required to go Light or Dark for the alignment stuff. I would love some neutral alignment stuff.

I had 100 Lightside points from a mistaken choice in a dialogue. Once I reached 10,000 DS points I could cancel out the LS ones by just doing one run of the Black Talon flashpoint so I had no LS points afterwards and was Dark V.

just did a quick solo run in esseles - i was 8150 LS and 50 DS - i took all DS dialogue options and gained 250 points towards DS - my overall points are 8150 LS and 300 DS overall score is 7850 - this means that to gain full DS i will have to run esseles until my score drops to zero so i have 8150 LS and DS points and then do another 34 runs in esseles to get to dark V... takes a while but it is totally doable so there should be no panic as OP tries to start.

to make it simple:

lets say you are close to lvl 50 and you want to hit dark side V but during your leveling you did picked up few times LS choices just cuz of pure fun of it - your current score is like 9900 DS and 100 LS (this means u are 200 points short) - all you have to do is do 1 run in black talon/esseles to reach overall score of 10k and gain rank V - simple as that.

this system makes it only complicated for ppl who decided to play as LS and switch close to end game to DS or stayed in so called "gray area" - then you will have to work bit more to get rank you want - hopefully though BW will provide gear for ppl who don't want to dedicate themselves to one side only.

hope this helps ^^

You can run hammerstation solo easily at any level 10-15+ over it, you can get 100 darkside or lightside repeatedly.

I myself went there 10 times in a row to reach darkside V.

I've yet to take a light side option, but I am already DS V and have plenty more options to take. I don't see a point in receiving LS points now since it won't allow me to use DS restricted items so I keep picking DS options. More fun anyway.

There is aswell 2 npc's u can hand in quests to, one will give you light side points the other will be dark side choice, if you listened to the quests and read the subtitles or the quest log you would know that.

I thought this too, until I discovered that once you hit 10,000 of your chosen alignment, and points made toward that goal delete points from the other end.

If you have 10k Dark side, and 70 light side, your actual alignment is -9930, make a darkside choice for 50 and your scores become 10,000 DS, and 20 LS, making your actual alignment -9980.

I have tested this extensively with Diplomacy just to be sure.

But yes, I thought you were stuck too, and made a huge panic thread about it. it's not true

I think it needs to be clearer in the UI that once capped your Moral Choices deduct from the point total of the other side, to avoid this confusion.

I got bitten by this today. I had full Dark V (-10,000) and made a light-side choice because it would have been better for the empire. That gave me 100 light side points, causing me to be stuck at -9900 dark side with a point cap of -10,000 dark side points already reached.

Because of this ONE choice, I have forever lost my Dark V status and can no longer even use the gear I was previously using. Nor can I ever get those points back no matter how evil I am. =(

EDIT: Just read the above post. We shall see what comes.

this part has me worried only level 19 but somehow i have 150 light points...however the came to be.... that means the rest of the game i have to know ill never be evil enough