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COOL ! premades already ruining starfighter

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DarthDymond
01.02.2014 , 09:09 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
That IS the definition of an premade, imho !



Because you are then not a premade anymore.

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A premade group is a group that queued together before the match (hence "pre-", before the match, "made", grouped up), as contrasted with a Pick-Up Group (or PUG) where everyone queued individually (or in small groups, usually 1 or 2).

You can have PUGs that decided to coordinate a strategy, but that doesn't make them a premade. By the same token you can have a premade that utterly fails to plan or implement a strategy - but that doesn't make it a PUG. (It does defeat the purpose of forming a premade, but that's another matter.)
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01.02.2014 , 09:12 AM | #72
Premades against randoms is for carebears.

If you're a carebear, continue to queue your premade against randoms.

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Grayseven
01.02.2014 , 09:20 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
Premades against randoms is for carebears.

If you're a carebear, continue to queue your premade against randoms.
How do you know it's a pre-made? How do you know if you aren't flying against a pre-made with your pre-made?

Not wanting to fight against a coordinated group is the definition of carebear in GSF. You seem to think that anyone who shows teamwork and coordination is a carebear when in fact your not wanting to fight against the best available is what being a carebear is all about.

This is a MMO. In MMO's, people play together. If you are playing a MMO and not playing with others...well, you are doing it wrong. If you are anti-social, if you hate playing with others, if you just want to log on and "do your thing" then you are gimping yourself and to expect others to change to your play style because you won't join a guild or play with friends is just ignorant.

Instead of railing against the limited advantage 4 players in VOIP contact have, start using teamwork yourself. Don't expect others to lower themselves to your level, their world does not revolve around your wants.
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Elfa
01.02.2014 , 09:29 AM | #74
Lol, Pre-mades ruined GS by day 3, where you been at OP? Either deal with it or don't, not sure what to tell you.
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Sangrar
01.02.2014 , 09:30 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
How do you know it's a pre-made? How do you know if you aren't flying against a pre-made with your pre-made?
Apparently if you lose to someone, it has to be a premade

Seriously I have had ground warzones where no one on the other team was even in the same guild and someone shouted "that was a premade" upon losing, and in gsf you can't even see guildnames. There are one or two premades yes, but not nearly as much as exaggerated on these forums.
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Lymain
01.02.2014 , 09:30 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
How do you know it's a pre-made? How do you know if you aren't flying against a pre-made with your pre-made?
If you're fighting against a pre-made comprised of two really good players and two average players, your PuG has a good chance to win if it happens to have three (or more) really good players.

If you're fighting against a team that has two really good players and your team doesn't have any really good players, you're almost certainly going to lose regardless of whether or not either side has a pre-made.
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Elfa
01.02.2014 , 09:37 AM | #77
The whole issue with pre-mades could have been negated if not solved on day one by having built it voice com like so many games did years ago.
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spanthegnome
01.02.2014 , 09:38 AM | #78
Pre-mades aren't that big of a deal. It's when nearly an entire team is playing gunship. If Bioware could limit how many of each class type of ship are spawned it may be more competitive. Since only subbers from before Nov 1st have them it becomes a game of who has more gunships most of the time.
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Elfa
01.02.2014 , 09:42 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by spanthegnome View Post
Pre-mades aren't that big of a deal. It's when nearly an entire team is playing gunship. If Bioware could limit how many of each class type of ship are spawned it may be more competitive. Since only subbers from before Nov 1st have them it becomes a game of who has more gunships most of the time.
You mean whoever has the best gunship players.
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OddballEasyEight
01.02.2014 , 10:46 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by AlrikFassbauer View Post
That IS the definition of an premade, imho !

No.
Premade is not a random group of people deciding to cooperate.
Premade is a group of people who get together beforehand and form a team specifically to play.
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