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SWTOR in 2014. Plan? Your Ideas?

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SWTOR in 2014. Plan? Your Ideas?

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NobleSpec
12.30.2013 , 04:35 PM | #1
Swtor is doing well....at least better than it was a year from now. I commend Bioware on an excellent 2013.
There hasn't been any info for future expansions or plans.. So let's speculate!

What do you think will come next??? I hope for some story content myself. I know personal stories aren't on their drawing board at all- however lets at least see some story and dialogue!

Let's hear y'all's ideas!

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Anzel
12.30.2013 , 04:43 PM | #2
Be prepared for a ZERO class story content, paid expansions and a nice big healthy dose of content in the way of gambling packs. Everything is "extra" now and not covered by the hundreds and hundreds of dollars you've already spent on your subscription and Cartel Coins.
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JPryde
12.30.2013 , 04:45 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
Be prepared for a ZERO class story content, paid expansions and a nice big healthy dose of content in the way of gambling packs. Everything is "extra" now and not covered by the hundreds and hundreds of dollars you've already spent on your subscription and Cartel Coins.
Why do you say so?

We just did get an expansion for free, we NEVER got any content in gambling packs and the story content was continually evolved.... not the SOLO story, but each addition had story to it... fully voiced.
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Ottoattack
12.30.2013 , 04:51 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by JPryde View Post
Why do you say so?

We just did get an expansion for free, we NEVER got any content in gambling packs and the story content was continually evolved.... not the SOLO story, but each addition had story to it... fully voiced.
If you call GSF an expansion. But, I would say starting ver 2.3 BW introduced reasonable amount of content every patch. Makeb, IMO, was terrible and it was the only content since late 2012. till 2.3 in July 2013.

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Anzel
12.30.2013 , 04:52 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by JPryde View Post
Why do you say so?

We just did get an expansion for free, we NEVER got any content in gambling packs and the story content was continually evolved.... not the SOLO story, but each addition had story to it... fully voiced.
I would agree that GSF is a nice addition, a very welcome one. HOWEVER, it also comes with a huge amount of new "content" via the Cartel Market. Oh yes, I know. You don't even have to say it. All of the Cartel Market stuff is "Extra". I know. I don't need anything in there. But yeah. Notice the new "Starfighter" tab? It's just another vehicle for them to sell more Cartel Coins.

They have said more than once that individual story lines are dead. This is because that 99.9% of all new items added to the game have been via gambling packs.

Look, I get the F2P model. I understand how it can be good for games. But that's not what they've done here. If you personally feel that your loyalty as a customer and the money you pay each month should be directed at them developing more gambling packs and then telling you it's "extra" then you are happier with them than I am.
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JPryde
12.30.2013 , 05:03 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
Look, I get the F2P model. I understand how it can be good for games. But that's not what they've done here. If you personally feel that your loyalty as a customer and the money you pay each month should be directed at them developing more gambling packs and then telling you it's "extra" then you are happier with them than I am.
I am working in the software development business, and I know that anything added to the cartel market requires practically NO work for a programmer any more. that part is done. It does however require graphic designer to create new models or textures.
Story content does not require a coder or artist at first... That creative work is done by totally different people. The implementation of the story then does require coder and artists.

Creating a new planet like Oricon or Czerka or Makeb did require a lot more artist work than the simple things we get in the cartel market. Please just stop acting as if the cartel market would keep the devs from doing any content work.
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EzioMessi
12.30.2013 , 05:10 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by JPryde View Post
I am working in the software development business, and I know that anything added to the cartel market requires practically NO work for a programmer any more. that part is done. It does however require graphic designer to create new models or textures.
Story content does not require a coder or artist at first... That creative work is done by totally different people. The implementation of the story then does require coder and artists.

Creating a new planet like Oricon or Czerka or Makeb did require a lot more artist work than the simple things we get in the cartel market. Please just stop acting as if the cartel market would keep the devs from doing any content work.
Nah man, don't you know it's a conspiracy? They have 100 Devs that work hard 10 hours a day for the CM items, and have 1 Dev who pops in once every 2 or 3 months, waves his hand and says, "Let there be story", and the next expansion pack is left sitting on Bioware's table, fully voiced, coded and designed.

It's very, very clear that we all know more about running an MMO than Bioware does. We should be hired and the current Devs be kicked out.



OT: I would like them to try and do at least some (if not all) of these:

-Expand GSF to have a ton of maps and game-modes.
-Bring back class stories (hey, one can always dream right?)
-Incentivize Ranked PvP so that queue times become shorter and there's enough of a player base for matchmaking
-Introduce 3-4 Huttball Maps - Then make Huttball an E-sport and give it its own Ranked queues, leaderboards, stats (like goals, passes, intercepts, etc) and make it like a sports league
-Bring something, anything, that encourages large-scale OWPvP
-Bring at least 3 new Operations and 5 new Flashpoints.
-Work on HMs for the FPs that don't have that already, and work on NiM FPs

Long list, I know, but I totally want at least half those things.
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Darth_Moonshadow
12.30.2013 , 05:11 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post

They have said more than once that individual story lines are dead. This is because that 99.9% of all new items added to the game have been via gambling packs.
No, pretty sure it's because there is nowhere else to go for the class storylines. Everyone got a nice ending, considering. There is nothing else left to do. Warrior becomes Wrath, The Knight killed the Emperor, Inquisitor joins the Dark Council etc. There's no real point of advancement for individual stories. And any type of Act 4 would have to render your character's status completely null and void for the sake of another rags-to-riches story or create some over the top threat that requires you to deal with. Makeb was the latter, operating under the Avengers-style Faction umbrella and while it worked for conveying a story without separating everyone via different instances, it drastically cut down on replayability.

It was sort of a lesser of two evils deal. Either continue Class stories, ruin your character for the sake of another journey and segregate the community during the leveling experience or discontinue the class stories in favor of faction stories, integrate the community and kill off replayability.

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12.30.2013 , 05:17 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Anzel View Post
Be prepared for a ZERO class story content, paid expansions and a nice big healthy dose of content in the way of gambling packs. Everything is "extra" now and not covered by the hundreds and hundreds of dollars you've already spent on your subscription and Cartel Coins.
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Tsillah
12.30.2013 , 05:18 PM | #10
Personally I hope there will be a Legacy/Quality of Life patch.

There are some things that really would be great additions to the game that can appeal to various players and help broaden the spectrum of the game.

So what types of things am I talking about?

- Player Housing. Don't care if it's in my ship or on a planet or whatever, but I think I am not the only one who would like something like this.
-Legacy bank. I am so sick of having to log around between toons to see who's got which mats and where some of my legacy bound armour pieces went. Make it sub only, legacy 50 for all I care but please bring it in.
- RP stuff like chat bubbles and new locations with seating areas (if adding it to old locations is too much work). Personally I don't RP much but these are two functions that I think will greatly add to the game to broaden it.
-Guild hang out. Guilds need a bit of love and a guild hangout instance would be a start. Also bigger guilds are hitting membership caps. But rather than expanding on that I think we need guild alliances. Some smaller guilds could get together or even bigger ones and maintain their indentity as a guild and still work closely together with other guilds with the advantage of an alliance roster and chat channel.

There's much more that can be done but I don't want to make a huge list here. I fully expect there to be new ops, new gear and level cap raises in the coming year. Also GSF will get more stuff added to it and I find it much more interesting than ground PvP at this stage, but broadening the view is good. Ground PvP would need a complete overhaul but not sure how realistic that is at this stage. Time will tell.
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