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The head start is storing up future frustration for all of the player base

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The head start is storing up future frustration for all of the player base

Ramalina's Avatar

12.14.2013 , 12:43 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Mallorik View Post
Having only keyboard and mouse controls is seriously going to limit the amount of space and flight sim people even trying out this game.
True in terms of attracting new players. If they implement joystick support it might help a bit in retaining flight sim players that already play SWTOR.

As far as upgrades go. In a one on one same role situation they will make a big difference. In a contest where one ship is weaker than another based on scout/fighter/gunship asymmetries it'll make a small to moderate difference.
Against players that know the general principles of air combat, are willing to cooperate, and use voice chat, upgrades will make very little difference unless both teams are doing so.

Unless ranked space combat is implemented I think that in general teamwork will crush upgrades, well into the foreseeable future. Maybe a little less for so for people that queue as groups.

Foambreaker's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 10:48 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by demotivator View Post
There is no huge gear gap. All the upgrades that you can get are obviously nice to have but they are not OP., they don't magically make you become a beast. So gear is hardly an issue.

Good players don't need these upgrades and can be already deadly with starter components. Bad players even fully upgraded will still be as bad.

The ever stupid good players will be good and bad players will be bad excuse, you can justify anything with it!

Ren_simp's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 03:41 PM | #33
No amount of upgrade will help if you suck at flying/targeting

People crying over imbalance gear gap already it's pathetic....

SlimsPicken's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 09:51 PM | #34
I just played a few games today on an alt, and there were several upgraded to the hilt flashfires able to destroy targets in literally 2 seconds with full shields.

Not exactly a welcoming way to come into the game. There should already be enough layers of player upgrades to provide some matching.

If the massively overgeared people have to wait, they have to wait. There should be no time when ships with more than 3 upgrades in slots fight rookie ships.

Upgraded gunships and flashfire scout against players with 2 ships to choose from and no upgrades is lol. And since it makes no sense, we can be assured it will continue.
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fungihoujo's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 09:54 PM | #35
Will they be using the same matchmaking system they used for rated pvp?

Because if so- I wouldn't be holding my breath for anything impressive.

dancezwithnubz's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 09:56 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Rykko View Post
I've only been doing the daily in GSF and it's clear a lot of people are playing a lot more and are well ahead of me in unlocks and that makes their weapons and defenses a lot more powerful.

Imagine what it's going to be like for Preferreds, F2Pers and subs alike having wins/losses dictated by how many of your pug team had early access and built up both unlocks and experience playing GSF.

It's not going to be fun for anyone and while subs should have been given something nice this head start is only going to cause frustration for them in the coming months.
so what? if they wanted GSF that badly, they could have subscribed.

f2p and Preffered players are getting a lot of game for not much money, they can suffer a little for all I care.

Soul_of_Flames's Avatar

12.15.2013 , 11:40 PM | #37
People start playing every day. Just because only a handful of people have access now doesn't change the fact that new players will start building their first ships every day.

There is nothing wrong with staggering the releases and it will not imbalance matches.

The only frustrations I foresee are premades with suped-up ships, but other than that it will barely be noticeable.

-More ships will be coming out to start upgrading thus putting all players at the same level.
-More new players start GSF everyday. Just because some are barred now doesn't change the fact that there is a steady stream of new players who are already at a disadvantage to more experienced players. There is a steady mixture of new and experienced players to balance out games.
-Matchmaking will attempt to group players based on their ship upgrades and play experience.

MalakaiCaine's Avatar

12.16.2013 , 07:12 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Foambreaker View Post

The ever stupid good players will be good and bad players will be bad excuse, you can justify anything with it!

except it isn't an excuse, fool.

Bull_Five_Golf's Avatar

12.16.2013 , 12:27 PM | #39
I don't think the head start will be a problem. Just for fun I hopped on a couple low level alts this weekend and played until I got the GS weekly done for all of them.

I didn't feel at a disadvantage at all running brand new ships with no upgrades. So either the matchmaking is working or the upgrades aren't so powerful that I felt any real difference. Either way that is good. It will take preferred and FTP players a while to get the hang of the controls but I don't think gear will be the deciding factor.
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