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An in-depth look at combat: Asajj Ventress

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An in-depth look at combat: Asajj Ventress

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Beniboybling
12.10.2013 , 02:48 PM | #1
"Master, all due respect, but Ventress is too powerful for any one Jedi to fight alone." ~ Ahsoka to Luminara Unduli

Age: Mid 20s

Height: 1.8 meters

Weight: 60 kilograms

Physicality: Ventress is in her physical prime and over the course of her apprenticeship her physical strength increased significantly to the point where she overcame many weaknesses of Jar’Kai and Makashi, the latter of which had difficulty generating kinetic energy and the former divided strength up between the two blades. Yet Ventress was capable of blade-locking with multiple opponents at the same time. Yet she could be overwhelmed by power attacks.

She also possessed remarkable fortitude, capable of recovering from significant impacts with little difficulty. She was also considerably agile and a skilled acrobatic, capable of dodging lightsaber attacks in the midst of combat.

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Melee Abilities

Ventress was an accomplished warrior, trained by her master, Count Dooku, in the Makashi style and also became accomplished in Jar’Kai – favouring dual wielding and the use of a saberstaff – the latter indicating excellent aptitude in the field of melee combat being a difficult weapon to master. However her style was not without weaknesses and grossly inferior to Dooku’s, and it is unlikely that she achieved a high level of mastery over any particular form. Nonetheless she remained his most deadly of assassins and Jedi Killers, holding her own against many accomplished warriors such as Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi and defeating master lightsaber duelists such as Luminari Unduli and Kit Fisto.

Lightsaber: Ventress inherited the weapons of Dooku’s former Padawan - Komari Vosa - and shared the curved hilt of her master’s own weapon. The blades were crimson and could be linked together to form a saberstaff, which due to the nature of her hilts the blades where slightly off-set and approached therefore at variable and unpredictable angles. Ventress’ weapons gave her a very versatile range of tactics and options, and the curved hilt complemented her usage of Makashi much like it did for her master.

Makashi: being a dueling-centric form Ventress is naturally attuned to combat with other lightsaber wielding opponents, with the sheer effectiveness and finesse of the style granting her an advantage against other duelists of the era unfamiliar with its refined techniques. And one may theorise that Ventress’ personal strength and ferocity introduces new elements to the form that help counter its inability to create significant kinetic energy and general weakness against more power-orientated dueling styles.

Jar’Kai: not a form in itself but rather a style of swordplay that utilises dual blades Ventress’ application of this style pairs well with her emphasis on strength, both physically and through the Force, allowing for rapid and overwhelming flurries. Multiple blades allowing her to perform more attacks per second if you will. It also made her very effective against multiple opponents which she had done so on several occasions with little difficulty, utilising the advantages of having an additional blade to erect an effective defense while continuing to employ offensive maneuvers.

Ventress was also accomplished at chaining physical attacks into her lightsaber sequences which would almost always consist of physical kicks – overbalancing her opponents and leaving the susceptible to attack. She was also a highly accomplished hand-to-hand fighter.

Force Abilities

While her primary focus was lightsaber combat, and her mastery over the Force therefore somewhat rudimentary – Ventress remained a powerful Force User and utilised this abilities to considerable and constant effect in battle.* The following are her most prominent combat abilities:

Telekinesis: Ventress was highly accomplished at chaining telekinetic attacks into her lightsaber sequences and did so often - blasting her opponents back with well-timed force pushes or barraging them with multiple telekinetic projectiles, often weighing in tonnes. Altogether giving her greater control over the battlefield.

Mind Control: Ventress was adept as using mind tricks and could use it to manipulate the minds of weak willed opponents and dominating animals to fight for her in battle.

Force Concealment: Ventress was trained by Count Dooku in Quey’tek meditation which allowed her to mask her presence in the Force. Something that could be used in the midst of a lightsaber duel to evade her opponents and perform a devastating sneak attack. However this was not something she used at all frequently.

*Note that Ventress has yet to achieve the full extent of her power, and in various involuntary bouts of Force Rage she demonstrates exceptional strength in the Force - or rather her full potential momentarily realised. For example choking Anakin and Kenobi. And while unable to apply this purposefully in battle, it makes her all the more deadly.

Other Abilities

Ventress was a tactical and intelligent duelist, often using her environment to her advantage, trapping, confusing and injuring her enemies. She was also accomplished in Dun Möch which she would often use to unbalance her opponents and quite remarkably on one occasions used it to successfully turn a Jedi to the dark side and against his friends.

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Strengths

Ventress’ primary advantages are strength, speed and smarts. Her offensive is powerful and fast-paced yet considerably refined, which makes for a deadly combination effective against a broad range of opponents, often alone proving enough to overwhelm. Yet in the event that this fails she can rely on a strong defense and exceptional fortitude to weather the assaults of her opponent. It is here that perhaps her greatest strength, her intelligent and tactical mind, kicks in. Ventress is constantly calculating her surroundings and the strengths and weaknesses of her adversaries which she repeatedly exploits to her advantage, whether that be a well-placed kick, a well-timed retreat, a trap or a telekinetic attack - they always produce results and turn the tide in her favour or extract her from a sticky situation.

Ventress’ preferred tactic is therefore to engage her opponents head on with an aggressive and unpredictable onslaught, while remaining mindful of her surroundings and exploiting them to her advantage. Inferior opponents fall to the former and superior opponents all too often to the latter.

Weaknesses

Ventress’ offensive may be dominating and her defense staunch, but they are far from perfect, and while she is very much a well-rounded duelist she lacks any specific mastery in any particular field. This proves a significant weakness against more specialised duelists capable of handling her attacks and breaking her defenses. She has a particular weakness against power duelist such as Anakin Skywalker; her attacks are easily deflected as she – despite being strong – still fails to produce sufficient kinetic energy. Which leads to her being placed on the back foot and if an opportunity fails to prevent itself she is inevitably overwhelmed. Ventress has also become very much reliant on the Jar’Kai style and when robbed or her second blade finds herself at a distinct disadvantage.

Counter-Strengths

Ventress however is by no means simply a lightsaber duelist, she has her Force abilities and tactical smarts to fall back on. A specialised opponent may be able to negate her more well-rounded assault, but they are still vulnerable to her enhanced speed, strength, Force-based attacks and can of course be lured in traps - which may often be enough to tip the scales in her favour. A good example would be Luminari Unduli, whose mastery over Soresu proved enough to easily hold off Ventress’ most ferocious attacks; yet through a combination of Ventress’ strategic ingenuity ability and her superior speed she was defeated in short order.

In specific terms of tactical ability, such applications would theoretically prove more effective against power duelists, who’s single-minded and in the moment approaches are highly susceptible to more calculating adversaries.

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Quotes, Clips and Scans:

A demonstration of Ventress’ unarmed capabilities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNvWb8eEwAA&t=0m44s

Ventress defeating Unduli and Ahsoka by manipulating her surroundings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vbubw1CO1I&t=2m26s

Ventress overpowering General Grievous in a contest of strength:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF97aJO7MuM&t=0m53s

A demonstration of Ventress’ Force abilities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mNVrmKAh2g&t=2m3s

Ventress holding her own against Mace Windu:

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A nice montage and demonstration of Ventress’ lightsaber engagements:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYM461ZPEM

Thoughts: Ventress’ tactical ability and intelligence is something often overlooked, and in fact is very much pronounced in all her duels. Both in small and large ways Ventress is always aware of her surroundings and using them to her advantage, or else exploiting the nature of the moment to overwhelm or evade her opponents. Watching that montage also makes you realise that her style is quite beautiful.

If you’ve got any suggestions for future in-depths or any quotes, clips or scans to add feel free to post below.

And as always thoughts and opinions are welcome!

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Aurbere
12.10.2013 , 03:00 PM | #2
Good work as always. I believe that Ventress has some skill in Niman, as she employs Force-based attacks regularly, but that's just my opinion.

A suggestion: Plo Koon. Yeah, you knew that was coming. If you don't own In Service to the Republic of The Sith Hunters, I could write it up for you.
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Beniboybling
12.10.2013 , 03:03 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Good work as always. I believe that Ventress has some skill in Niman, as she employs Force-based attacks regularly, but that's just my opinion.

A suggestion: Plo Koon. Yeah, you knew that was coming. If you don't own In Service to the Republic of The Sith Hunters, I could write it up for you.
Well Niman and Jar'Kai are interlinked so its definitely a possibility.

And I file that suggestion, and any info you could provide would be great.

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Aurbere
12.10.2013 , 03:07 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Well Niman and Jar'Kai are interlinked so its definitely a possibility.

And I file that suggestion, and any info you could provide would be great.
I'll write some stuff up and PM it to you.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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RaptorClown
12.10.2013 , 03:08 PM | #5
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Selenial
12.10.2013 , 03:28 PM | #6
You might include Dark Rage in her force abilities, dont remember it flatly stated, but we blatantly see it in her duel against Skywalker and Kenobi on her command ship... Fly's into a rage, due to recent emotional trauma, force powers increased by immense measures, she barely escapes and passes out... Seems like Dark Rage to me

Oh, and great job!
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Beniboybling
12.10.2013 , 04:52 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
You might include Dark Rage in her force abilities, dont remember it flatly stated, but we blatantly see it in her duel against Skywalker and Kenobi on her command ship... Fly's into a rage, due to recent emotional trauma, force powers increased by immense measures, she barely escapes and passes out... Seems like Dark Rage to me

Oh, and great job!
Yes and no. On one hand yes she has certainly had some violent bouts of anger that have no doubt bolstered her effectiveness in battle.

But on the other hand these have been involuntary. Whereas Force Rage is a voluntary power that involved the user actively intensifying his emotions to fly into such a blood filled fury. Probably more applicable to someone like Malgus.

That said I might give it a mention.

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Wolfninjajedi
12.10.2013 , 05:34 PM | #8
I don't think Force Rage is really an actual ability, more along the lines of what Obi-Wan(TPM), Anakin(Clone Wars/ROTS) and Luke(ROTJ) did to overwhelm their opponents. Its a breif amp, not something that is voluentary.
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Selenial
12.10.2013 , 05:42 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
I don't think Force Rage is really an actual ability, more along the lines of what Obi-Wan(TPM), Anakin(Clone Wars/ROTS) and Luke(ROTJ) did to overwhelm their opponents. Its a breif amp, not something that is voluentary.
It is controllable and uncontrollable. The Sith Assassins utilized force rage as an on-demand power, as did sith like Malgus, and Sion. It's in a lot of sourcebooks... However it's stated to be a dangerous power because It takes severe energy out of the user, it can have long term damage, and merely using the power can stop a Jedi from ever being one with the light side.

The power is seriously so strong that it leaves a permanent darkness in you.
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.
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Wolfninjajedi
12.10.2013 , 05:49 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
It is controllable and uncontrollable. The Sith Assassins utilized force rage as an on-demand power, as did sith like Malgus, and Sion. It's in a lot of sourcebooks... However it's stated to be a dangerous power because It takes severe energy out of the user, it can have long term damage, and merely using the power can stop a Jedi from ever being one with the light side.

The power is seriously so strong that it leaves a permanent darkness in you.
Well of course it's a dangerous power and of course it can stop a Jedi from being at the light side, it's using their rage as a weapon something which they shouldn't do. Though prey tell a quote that says its a voluentary power?
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.