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treek mute custimization or force choke hold on treek PLZ!!!!1!

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treek mute custimization or force choke hold on treek PLZ!!!!1!

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leene
11.02.2013 , 04:35 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
As a healer, she's indeed the most effective. As a tank, Treek is crap, pure and simple.

Tested her out against other tanks and even when better equipped, she has an issue when it comes to retaining threat, unlike other tank companions in the game. I assume the issue is related to the moments when she's healing, since it seems she does NOT generate enough threat then.

Either way, the more I played with her, the more I realized how half-baked she actually was, not to mention it would've been cool on Bioware's part to introduce the same line of reasoning, for other companions, when it comes to generating extra threat when using tank stance.
Really? I completely disagree here, I have to say. I use Treek as a tank on both my Operative and Scoundrel healers and am very happy with her performance. I was surprised how well she was able to retain threat actually. Used her as an emergency tank in FPs often enough without any problems. SCORPIO for instance wasn't as convincing for me. Ah well, to each their own

I'm used to her voice and exclamations by now. Many of my chars run around with her, so it's no issue for me personally anymore, but I can understand that others are bothered by it, and muting other players' Treeks shouldn't be that big of a problem.

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ZETA_SCORPII
11.02.2013 , 06:43 AM | #12
[QUOTE=Darth_Wicked;6908930]As a healer, she's indeed the most effective. As a tank, Treek is crap, pure and simple.

Tested her out against other tanks and even when better equipped, she has an issue when it comes to retaining threat, unlike other tank companions in the game. I assume the issue is related to the moments when she's healing, since it seems she does NOT generate enough threat then.

Either way, the more I played with her, the more I realized how half-baked she actually was, not to mention it would've been cool on Bioware's part to introduce the same line of reasoning, for other companions, when it comes to generating extra threat when using tank stance.[/QUOTE

I almost have Mako in full 72's so I'll never need another healing comp and Blizz is super effective in 69 gear so unless they come out with a better DS healing / tank companion I'll never have a use for Treek.

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Icebergy
11.02.2013 , 07:07 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Korevas View Post
Problem is, she is still the most effective companion in both of her roles. IMO, having to chose between efficiency and personal preference is a design flaw, especially when the devs already developed a solution for it and then took it out for no reason at all.
Problem is, she cannot DPS, and for an advanced player DPS companions are far better than healer or tank companions.
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JediRelentless
11.02.2013 , 07:19 AM | #14
Until a better option comes along, I suggest going to the sound preferences and turn down the audio level of the things you are so easily annoyed by.

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branmakmuffin
11.02.2013 , 10:11 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by AdrianDmitruk View Post
Normally I am of the "don't like a comp, don't use it" variety, but I should note that we still hear other players' Treek fuzzballs. I suspect this has something to do with the OP's problem.
Someone has to tolerate other players' game-play decisions in a multi-player game? Say it ain't so!

Quote: Originally Posted by Icebergy View Post
Problem is, she cannot DPS, and for an advanced player DPS companions are far better than healer or tank companions.
I am shocked, I tell you, shocked, that a companion designed to heal/tank cannot also deliver top-notch DPS. I suppose HK's healing is sub-par, too.. What a rip-off.

It's a good thing you know exactly what "advanced players" (whatever that means) require.

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AdrianDmitruk
11.02.2013 , 10:45 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Someone has to tolerate other players' game-play decisions in a multi-player game? Say it ain't so!
Way to engage in selective/out of context quoting! Were you here at launch when there were so many companions out in such densely populated areas (like capital worlds) that the constant sound of other companions running their assorted 3 lines of combat dialogue became more spammy than actual gold spammers?

Yes Bioware implemented a FIX for that by muting the companions of other players. After the fix you could only hear your own.

Making a note that Bioware failed to keep said fix up to date as they introduced new companions is hardly equivalent to refusing "to tolerate other players' game-play decisions in a multi-player game." I noted that Bioware had previously addressed the OP's complaint but then failed to keep that fix up to date with the new content.

Then again with Bioware's track record I suppose it clearly is unreasonable to keep bugfixing current or up-to-date.
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Icebergy
11.02.2013 , 01:25 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
I am shocked, I tell you, shocked, that a companion designed to heal/tank cannot also deliver top-notch DPS. I suppose HK's healing is sub-par, too.. What a rip-off.

It's a good thing you know exactly what "advanced players" (whatever that means) require.
I did not, in any way, state, or form, say what advanced players require. I merely stated that if you are skilled at this game, you will be most efficient with a DPS companion as a response to the person complaining that they were "forced" to use Treek because she is the "best" companion.
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Darth_Wicked
11.02.2013 , 02:17 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by leene View Post
Really? I completely disagree here, I have to say. I use Treek as a tank on both my Operative and Scoundrel healers and am very happy with her performance. I was surprised how well she was able to retain threat actually. Used her as an emergency tank in FPs often enough without any problems. SCORPIO for instance wasn't as convincing for me. Ah well, to each their own

I'm used to her voice and exclamations by now. Many of my chars run around with her, so it's no issue for me personally anymore, but I can understand that others are bothered by it, and muting other players' Treeks shouldn't be that big of a problem.
I have issues with Treek on both my Sentinel and Gunslinger and when using the melee tanks both classes provide, namely Lord Scourge and Bowdaar, it doesn't happen as much.

Either way, I assume it's mostly related with her healing abilities, which simply do not generate threat at all or probably not enough and then it boils down to a vicious cycle, since the more she heals, the less threat she generates. This is particularly bothersome in some heroics I have a tendency to solo, namely the GSI ones on Tatooine and Makeb, just to name a few.

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Still, there's one thing I love about her: I don't have to disable any of her attacks, since she NEVER breaks CC.

I almost have Mako in full 72's so I'll never need another healing comp and Blizz is super effective in 69 gear so unless they come out with a better DS healing / tank companion I'll never have a use for Treek.
You miss the point it would seem.

Treek, like HK-51, uses both aim and cunning, which is always good if you're a Bounty Hunter and her healing abilities just seem to scale more effectively, not to mention they are actually better... The one that heals and cleanses periodically while the healing effect lasts is great; Mako can't just top that, no matter how well geared she is.

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11.02.2013 , 03:24 PM | #19
I have to admit...I don't have treek yet, but I like hearing her when other folks have her out. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.

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Andryah
11.02.2013 , 05:12 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I have to admit...I don't have treek yet, but I like hearing her when other folks have her out. I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.
She was annoying for about a week. Then you just kind of tune her out. The human mind is amazing at filtering algorithms on ambient events unless it's something so overwhelming as to cause the mind to shut down. She's annoying, but she simply does not have the juice to overwhelm.
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