Sorcerer Changes Brainstorming

Pretty much my thoughts exactly. I've started joking that they should just remove the class and give everyone a voucher for a level 55 with a full set of gear.

DPS is the "easy" issue to fix I think. Honestly, I think they need to just overhaull the class. Like they're doing with sin tanks. Yes, leave them basically the same but adjust a large mechanic. Perhaps how they stat, etc etc.

If only you were the sorc representative, we might not have had all those horrible questions! :/

And as for the whole idea of me running for class rep...I'm not really well known outside of my server. I pretty much only became involved with the wider SWTOR community after Bioware decreed Heal to Full/Make Them Pay.

No offence but don't you think a class rep should know the class inside out and till yesterday you didn't even know that force armor prevents pushback. In fact you even called me a liar when I said that to the guy that was suggesting such change, that the mechanism already exists. That's really nice attitude for a class rep. I hope you ran your tests and learnt. But I think a class rep should have inside out knowledge of the class (imagine going and asking no pushback while force armor is up, there will be face palms all over the place) and a good attitude(not calling someone a liar, regardless of right or wrong, and even worse when you are wrong). No offence, but I haven't seen you demonstrating these qualities, the contrary I must say.

Eh, I might have rewritten those questions but I seriously doubt Bioware would have ever taken their own Q&A that seriously until they received the negative reaction they did. If anything perhaps I would have been more careful to document how the string of nerfs (which I did document in various places after H2F came down) made us unwanted in the PVP meta (Psi agreed with the sage rep that he would ask PVP questions while Nibbon asked PVE questions, and tbh I probably would've done something similar as I'm far more experienced with PVP). I've always held that the reason why the questions seem whiny to those who have not experienced the issues raised thereby is because they are not put in the context of what sorcs once were, how the class actually functioned when the class was widely regarded as pretty balanced (and the QQ was coming from those who had yet to find their interrupt keybinds).

I do regret that I did not contribute more to the discussion until after Bioware replied with its H2F snark, but I honestly think that they needed the community reaction they received to open their eyes to some very long-festering issues. A "better" set of questions still would have received a "working as intended" type answer even if they would have been more diplomatic about it. I pretty much confirmed that by going to the Seattle Community Cantina event and asking about it; Bioware's reps replied that the metrics at the time showed sorcs were doing well in 8v8s so they didn't (yet) see reason to make changes. Of course the fact that Musco posted this thread is an indication that our metrics have gone south because we must resort to extreme measures to adapt to the newest content, if we are accepted by groups for it at all.

If there's anything good that came out of the whole fiasco, it's that Bioware took subsequent sets of questions/answers substantially more seriously and sins (especially tanks) got some much-needed attention when the community feared sins would be receiving another H2F type answer. I pretty much believe the sorc community more or less unwittingly sacrificed themselves so sins could get some love. LOL.

But of course Bioware didn't know how to put the sorc genie back in the bottle (like, for example, redoing their answers to our class questions)...so they're scratching their heads wondering what to do with us that won't get them reamed at Community Cantina events again. Once bitten, twice shy.

And as for the whole idea of me running for class rep...I'm not really well known outside of my server. I pretty much only became involved with the wider SWTOR community after Bioware decreed Heal to Full/Make Them Pay.

Dont worry guys, after guardian vengeance got his root in master strike, u will die very fast in wz's. I has many duels vs my friend in this spec and his focus spec. i played full balance, mid tree, hybrid. 1 win (Iwas in hybrid) / 10 loses. Next day did it again on Ilum pvp area. Same result. Play guard vengeance and tank, marauder rage spec, sins mid tree, operative healer, powertech and forgot about sage dps, scoundrel scrapper, shadow balance spec for pvp.

I wonder how many of the 16 pages they will read