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Velmal
09.15.2013 , 09:08 AM | #91
Wait we get a **** title newbie's get a ton of stuff, did I read that right?

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vilevilhelm
09.15.2013 , 09:16 AM | #92
You know I've never understood why people think berating game developers will get them to change things.
I mean, if people will complain no matter what a developer does then why try to appease you people, when the only incentive you give them is a ***** fest?
If it was me I'd be thinking, "To hell with keeping these trolls happy." and I'd only be looking for ways to get paid as a result.
The one tactic that's never used by you guys is encouragement. Instead you ***** and moan and for what? You still buy the crap all the same, or you don't buy it and they seek ways to get new members to pay for the game.
You know what you got for the buy the Hutt Cartel early, getting the Hutt cartel early. Big surprise there! You got to play the expansion when it was released and had a head start on other people.
Besides chances are they made the expansion free because they are about to release another expansion soon.
The only complaint I feel is valid is how people that pre ordered Hutt were shafted out of 1000 CC and I do feel that its a bad strategy to alienate your loyal customers. Its a sad trend many companies have adopted because they realize that loyal customers are loyal. You'll pay for it anyway because you like the game.
Going back to the whole encouragement trend, I say great idea guys. Please bring in new members because the more people that play the better this Massive MULTI PLAYER game will be. Further more I've been into f2p games that have failed, force to shut down pre maturely because of irate forum trolls and a lack of people spending money on the game.
Don't complain when you see a new commercial instead of having some dweeb rebalance the classes. That new commercial is a good thing because it is marketing that keeps a business alive, why do you think i-phones did so well even though there were countless better smart phones out there. Brand name is everything when you are in an international market.
So on a final note, I say thanks for the deal. I've renewed my account after months of not playing so it seems to me like their plan was a good one.

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athynz
09.15.2013 , 09:40 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Kartisan View Post
All subscribers who purchased Rise of the Hutt Cartel should receive the 1050 cartel coins irregardless of whether it was purchased within the last 30 days or prior. From this article I read, never purchase an expansion again until it is offered for free.
Agreed! While the expansion is pretty cool selling it to us and then making it free for all and NOT granting the cartel coin bonus to ALL who purchased it is pretty much screwing over those of us who purchased it prior to August 11th. Yes IIRC those who preordered did get some credits as a preorder perk but the cartel coins should be another perk - an additional 1050 credits. Greedy you say? Not really, not when it's the subscribers and the ones who preorder that are supporting this game. I'm good with a F2P option, I'm good with the expansion being free as long as some love is being shown to those who subscribe. THAT should not be too much to ask.

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athynz
09.15.2013 , 09:47 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by GoldenHornet View Post
Why would you? Seriously?

If you pre-ordered RotHC you got a Markrin Seedling pet, a Scourge of the Hutts title, a Dr Oggrurobb statue so you can train your skills anywhere you like, all on every character you make now and in the future.

In addition you got early access to the content which you have been playing for the last six months.

And now because they've decided to give away this old, out of date DLC you have the gall to come on here and whine "I want, I want"?!?!



Grow up.
Let me guess - you are one of the ones who just got into the game or got back into the game... And YES I do indeed have the gall to come on here and say I want, I want because this screwed the ones who preordered the game. Yes there were some perks but the ONLY one that we got was the early access... IIRC the rest of what you mentioned is included with the expansion to all - the holostatue, the pet,and the title. Tell ya what sport - you don't like us complaining about then don't bother reading or commenting because our opinion is every bit as valid - if not more so- than yours.

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athynz
09.15.2013 , 09:54 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Manweth View Post
The 1050 CC was not a bonus, it was a store credit refund for last 30 day purchasers..

This 500 just for reactivation makes ZERO sense. Well, yes, it's an INCENTIVE for old subs, but it's also a bit like saying "You shoulda gone f2p and came back now instead of subbing all the time." Weird. So it's very understandable for old subs to be invited back, but...

I mean, does it make any sense for the current subscribers? Hell no.

I subbed since launch for god's sake, and so far, only bonus I've seen is an extra 30 days they granted back in Feb 2012 or something. Aside from that, it's been "shaft the subber, stroke the freebie" all the way.

Would I unsub? No, coz I love this game and it's currently best all around MMO on the market, but sure as hell not happy to get whipped all the time.

Bioware's dear community managers, take notice of this fact:

We of those who supported and understood the 1050 CC refund and old buyers of RotHC not getting anything, ARE getting angry over this.

That should show your marketing department that this latest 500 bonus to resubbing players is a BAD BAD move.

Real bad. Like, totally, really bad.
Well said!

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Jemkeldromm
09.15.2013 , 07:52 PM | #96
ok why isn't the new video not working? just a blank screen. I read it was great but I'm missing out.
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AbsolutGrndZero
09.16.2013 , 04:05 AM | #97
Damn... I didn't get in on this thread before the "slap to the face" comments started...

That's a real slap to the face, huh!?
Ok, even I admit that was a bad joke, but really... it's no more dumb than everyone always saying "this is a slap to the face of your loyal subscribers" no matter what Bioware does.
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AbsolutGrndZero
09.16.2013 , 04:18 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by athynz View Post
Let me guess - you are one of the ones who just got into the game or got back into the game... And YES I do indeed have the gall to come on here and say I want, I want because this screwed the ones who preordered the game. Yes there were some perks but the ONLY one that we got was the early access... IIRC the rest of what you mentioned is included with the expansion to all - the holostatue, the pet,and the title. Tell ya what sport - you don't like us complaining about then don't bother reading or commenting because our opinion is every bit as valid - if not more so- than yours.
I've been playing this game since beta, I purchased the Collector's Edition, and I have been unsubscribed from the game a total of three days the entire time (and that was prior to the game going F2P... since F2P I've never let my sub lapse) and I pre-ordered Rise of the Hutt Cartel the first week. So now having said that so you know I'm not some new player that is actually getting those 1000CC, I fully understand why Bioware is giving 1000CC to the people they are giving it to. I'm ok with it. I 100% agree with the person you quoted.


Oh, and by the way the holostatue, the pet, and the Scourge of the Hutt title is NOT given to everyone because I have guildmates that bought the expansion but did not preorder it, and they now wish they had.


EDIT: Oh and to those now complaining about the 500CC bonus to returning players, my God is this your first MMO? Were you born yesterday? Bonuses to returning players is something ALL games do. I bet you people complained that players returning to WoW could get a free level 80 panda but current subscribers had to actually play their panda to level 80 (actually I think the "scroll of resurrection" gave the referring player a free level 80 too, I don't remember nor care as even if it did, there would be the complaint "But all my friends already play" argument)
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DAMossimo
09.16.2013 , 04:45 AM | #99
A positive spin on this development is that they actually seem to want subs now. Maybe, just maybe, it will lead to good things.

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Beranzen
09.16.2013 , 02:57 PM | #100
Much as I'd like the 1050 bonus coins, for ROTHC, I'd be happy getting that speeder.
Now if newbies get the speeder, the coins, the pet and the title, while long time subs get only the title, then I'd say i'd have a reason to be upset.
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