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Rise of the Hutt Cartel Free to Subscribers Starting September 12th!

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Rise of the Hutt Cartel Free to Subscribers Starting September 12th!
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FlatheadMonster
09.10.2013 , 01:32 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalshic View Post
I noticed you said you wouldn't be playing still if it wasn't for the content and free coins to subscribers. You basically admitted you got what you paid for and you were satisfied with it, yet you're still here complaining. Is it just to annoy people?
Your first post on this thread was "Thank you!". I'm guessing you are happy to be getting free content that other people paid for. All arguments aside, this hardly makes you an objective party on how those who paid for the expansion should feel about this. You're getting free content. I would be pleased as punch if I were you too.
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elvavwiel
09.10.2013 , 01:32 PM | #182
:: clears throat ::

First of all: you're all suffering from a clear perception problem, just heal to full and then you can make em pay for what they did.

Seriously, you guys really expected clever pr mechanics from bioware?

First off: i dont care about the cartel coins, i'm happy with what i played the past couple months, however the 'title' thing just seems too much like a pacifier: look we gave those people money but here you go, have a title to add to your collection of titles that everyone else has and isnt in any way unique.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kalshic View Post
A few questions to people that bought it day that are complaining:
Were you okay with your purchase 2 hours ago before knowing this?
Were you satisfied with the content for the last 6 months?
If you answered no to the above 2: Why are you still playing?
Would you have honestly been okay with playing the vanilla version of this game for 6 months? And paying for it?
If no, then why are you complaining now?
I actually liked the mechanics in 1.0-1.4 more. (Give me back my project, salvation, interrupts in warzones, general actual class balance, soa random mechanic hard/nightmare mode, scoundrel giggle when gaining upper hand, )

Saying that 'giving 1050' cartel coins to everyone would cost them money is false as well, I, and probably there are other people out there like me only spend the cartel coins we get for 'free' from our security key/subscriber/random stuff. I only bought cartel coins when they were just added, havent since because i can't be arsed to spend 3 euros on random stuff that from what i can tell considers 'crappy intern made' gear 'uncommon' and some pet that i dont want instead of atleast a decent looking piece of gear 'rare'. (not to forget that the 'crafting' mats you get are just inventory clutter, and the companion gifts are more of a: meh i gueess it saves me a mission?)


Anyway, people keep on raging, its threads like these that keep me busy during raid nights.
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TUXs
09.10.2013 , 01:32 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Exly View Post
You thought wrong. Here is what they said:

"Finally, Subscribers who purchase Rise of the Hutt Cartel between August 11, 2013 and September 12, 2013 at 9:00AM PDT / 4:00PM GMT will be granted 1050 Bonus Cartel Coins in appreciation for their recent purchase of Rise of the Hutt Cartel. The 1050 Bonus Cartel Coins will be granted by September 13, 2013 at 9:00AM PDT / 4:00PM GMT"
Yeah...I see that now...well...that sucks.

Bioware...seriously...what were you thinking?!
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homsikpanda
09.10.2013 , 01:33 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Exly View Post
What stopped you from buying it earlier? Who's fault was it they you decided not to buy it before you did?

Maybe you should get whoever stopped you from buying it to compensate you for your loss.
i blame bioware for poor advertising, i wasn't aware of the game till july, as i wasn't aware of it and didn't know it existed i wasn't able to purchase the expansion earlier.
i feel you're also partly responsable, after all word of mouth is a large part of advertisement aswell.... why did you not tell me about SWTOR back in december! >=|...jerk!... i want compensation!

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WillCaedes
09.10.2013 , 01:33 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by homsikpanda View Post
lets flip this around for a minute, lets say bioware gave everybody who purchased it 1050 cartel coins.

now, how come i'm being punished for purchasing it later rather then earlyer? i only started playing in late july, so it's not my fault i didn't purchase it till august. the company is just had bad advertising/marketing in my area.
i want, no i DEMAND 5 months worth of compensation that the early purchasers are getting.
i don't really care what it is. maybe a couple lvl 55 armor sets, or an instant lvl 55 character, or shiny statue...hell that pre-order speeder in the fleet would be nice, you could give me that aswell
Because you purchased it after it first became available for 10 bucks as a subscriber. You've had six months to purchase it if you were a Day 1 subscriber. And if you can't afford a measly 10 bucks in 6 months worth of time, maybe you shouldn't even subscribe if you don't have that kinda money.

NVM Say your statement about subscribing in June, my point still stands (not towards you though).

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barcrow
09.10.2013 , 01:34 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by homsikpanda View Post
maybe if all the butt hurt, early/pre-order people who bought the release prior to the 11th could make a petition to have bioware engineer a time machine so you could go back in time and tell yourself to not spend the next 5 months playing expanded content for $10 because it's going to be free in 6 months
that's a savings of nearly $2 a month! =o HOLY **** YOU'RE RICH NOW!
Or they could just give people who supported the game to begin with the cartel coins too and not just give them to waffling part timers or perhaps even smack-talking arseholes..that would work.

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Darth_Nemisis
09.10.2013 , 01:36 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalshic View Post
Someone disagrees with me! They must be bioware/ea employees or trolls, the whole world is out to get me. That's why I'm being punished and not getting what someone else is getting.

That's you.

Their loyalty is having their devs make you content, fix bugs, hire customer service reps, keep the servers and forums up(Also remember they don't HAVE to give subscribers CC every month, there's more of a perk to you). The ONLY thing you are entitled to is access to what you paid for. You are owed nothing else.
Sorry pal, but im not F2P here, I pay them for what they do. They need to be honored to do what they do and earn a living. I wish I could make video games and get paid for it. Take care of the customer, or they go elsehwere. I don't need to be content with that THEY do, they need to work hard to keep me that way. And BTW most of what THEY do also effects F2P as well, so those people are getting alot of what I do except for free. And since were doing impression, heres you..

" You all should bow down on both knees and worship and honor EA/Bioware in all of their greedy glory because im a trained monkey that likes to play PR rep that tries to put out the flames for them, but what I end up doing is causing more damage and making myself look like a total tool who should go back to toilet mongering because my life sucks and im bored, so I troll people on a game forums."

I had to laugh when you said part of their "loyalty" was hiring customer reps and fixing bugs? You just lost ALL credibility when you said those two things, cause atm this game is FULL of bugs with no end in sight, and customer support? really? People wait weeks to get problems fixed. Im still waiting 3 weeks on a issue with a open ticket.
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Kalshic
09.10.2013 , 01:37 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by FlatheadMonster View Post
Your first post on this thread was "Thank you!". I'm guessing you are happy to be getting free content that other people paid for. All arguments aside, this hardly makes you an objective party on how those who paid for the expansion should feel about this. You're getting free content. I would be pleased as punch if I were you too.
Yep, I am. I also guarantee you I wouldn't be complaining tomorrow if they said they weren't doing it. Because I'm not entitled. Who's objective in your opinion then? The guy that thinks he deserves coins because someone else is getting them? The one getting the coins?

I'd probably say the Bioware and EA businessmen and lawyers who made this decision are the most objective. I just so happen to agree with them.
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Sorry pal, but im not F2P here, I pay them for what they do. They need to be honored to do what they do and earn a living. I wish I could make video games and get paid for it. Take care of the customer, or they go elsehwere. I don't need to be content with that THEY do, they need to work hard to keep me that way.
Proof of entitlement. "They owe me". Funny thing is a few pages back you said you were satisfied with the content for the last 6 months, so they're doing their job. If you didn't say that I might think you were unsatisfied but its too late now.

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I had to laugh when you said part of their "loyalty" was hiring customer reps and fixing bugs? You just lost ALL credibility when you said those two things, cause atm this game is FULL of bugs with no end in sight, and customer support? really? People wait weeks to get problems fixed. Im still waiting 3 weeks on a issue with a open ticket.
When was the last patch? Every new patch brings in thousands of lines of coding, bugs happen and get fixed. Is this your first MMO? Honestly?

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LtGeneralGezlin
09.10.2013 , 01:38 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Nemisis View Post
Sorry pal, but im not F2P here, I pay them for what they do. They need to be honored to do what they do and earn a living. I wish I could make video games and get paid for it. Take care of the customer, or they go elsehwere. I don't need to be content with that THEY do, they need to work hard to keep me that way. And BTW most of what THEY do also effects F2P as well, so those people are getting alot of what I do except for free. And since were doing impression, heres you..

" You all should bow down on both knees and worship and honor EA/Bioware in all of their greedy glory because im a trained monkey that likes to play PR rep that tries to put out the flames for them, but what I end up doing is causing more damage and making myself look like a total tool who should go back to toilet mongering because my life sucks and im bored, so I troll people on a game forums."

I had to laugh when you said part of their "loyalty" was hiring customer reps and fixing bugs? You just lost ALL credibility when you said those two things, cause atm this game is FULL of bugs with no end in sight, and customer support? really? People wait weeks to get problems fixed. Im still waiting 3 weeks on a issue with a open ticket.
I'm still waiting for a reason why you think that anyone who disagrees with you must work at Bioware......
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Exly
09.10.2013 , 01:38 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by homsikpanda View Post
side note:
it's also completely unrealistic that content, especially video games or expansions for video games should go down in price as time passes, or that bonus content will become free with the release of "game of the year" editions or "expanded content" editions, for the same price as the original when it was first release, or even cheaper then the original when first release.

completely unrealistic.....

on that note i have several original release skyrim games i'm selling for $60
if you're not sure what skyrim is here's a link link please disregard the reduced price, that's just silly that a store would reduce the price for a game almost a year after it's release.... TOTALLY silly.
I am ok with them making the content free, but that does not mean that I am also ok with them showing me less appreciation than they are to recent buyers of the content.

The truth is, I always thought that the content should have been free to subscribers, and I only begrudgingly bought it in the first place. Now I am thinking that it would be better if I had just unsubbed when ROHTC first came out, and waited to resub when the content was made free. I doubt that I will make the same mistake the next time.