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Keybinds vs clicking

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Keybinds vs clicking

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supermouthcml
09.06.2013 , 05:16 PM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by ErikGW View Post
Yep, too many of those players are why i left pot5.

I was a bit harsh, but look at what he gave us as examples. He was clearly that guy that is well-known as the weakest link in pug matches.

Every server has some guys that make the regulars cringe when they get stuck with them. This guy is one of those.

He took screenshots of his fails, then used them as examples of how he is great as a clicker.

I don't regret my harsh response. He had it coming. It might be positive for him to know the truth about his playing.
First of all lets be perfectly clear. I posted those screenshots to prove that as a clicker you can still be a viable dps, those SS were not posted to showcase objectives and if ud like id be more than happy to post some SS of me with over 18K objective points, as for the kills i also have many SS of me with 24 or higher killing blows and 3 or more solo kills that i would be GLAD to post.
1. first, its called tab dotting not 'splash dotting', please for the love of god learn the names of the things you criticize someone about. Also if you actually look closely at my skills, in most of those SS i was hybrid telekinetics/balance spec, so the use of tab targetting is almost never implemented into my gameplay unless i am full balance spec.
2. you say i did nothing in the huttball match regarding objectives, this is true however i was solo and in a group of complete pugs against a pretty well established premade. my team gave up on the match very early on for obvious reasons.. we were getting stomped. so why would i try to be a one man army against another team when my team sits in its own spawn?
3. you say i am a bad player and that i am irrelevant but, last time i checked i had never heard of you or you numerous alts, or even your guild and believe me, i check these things far to often
please crawl back to the hole you spawned out of and remain there, where the more serious pvp'ers do not have to be bothered by you
And the truth about my gameplay? bahahahahahah
In other words, to generalize the meaning of this counter post... g..t..f..o
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Gloomycakes
09.06.2013 , 05:19 PM | #232
To be honest, after reading through the thread I'm unsure I should still say it, but I think over-all that the people who recommend keybinds don't mean to act superior, insult you or harm you in any way, they just want to help, especially when it comes down to things as dynamic as PvP.

I've not experienced what it's like to click my abilities because somehow I'm a keybound-whore since birth (yay to BFs getting you into games to skip atleast 1 year of struggling with basics?) So for me it's very difficult to imagine how people pull certain things off without keybinding and I don't think I could pull it off. For that reason I think a lot of people would be better off getting out of their comfort zone and try keybinding more abilities, doesn't mean I think clickers can't perform, just makes me wonder how well they'd preform if they keybind a lot more.

I must say it took me a week to get out of my comfort zone when getting my naga, now I think it's a blessing and I can't do without. My whole keyboard was more or less bound to something, Naga gave me 36 (ctrl and alt are very easy to reach for me though I struggle with shift :s) free spots, so I now only use 1-5 and R with the control version for abilities on top of the Naga, rather than q-t (qwerty) a-g and z-b. I can't go back, but maybe that makes me the weaker player.

For helpful keybinders:
Time to sound dumb, when I rest my hand on the keyboard I rest the top of my pinkie on tab, other fingers on the number keys, my thumb somewhere between alt and spacebar (top rests on C) and I can press ctrl with my hand where my pinkie more or less starts (1 cm lower) are my hands too small to reach Shift properly or am I doing something horribly wrong? (Everyone seems to use Shift and it just makes me wonder and I'm afraid Ctrl and Alt will give me issues in other games.)

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supermouthcml
09.06.2013 , 05:56 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by So-low View Post
In each of those screens you died 0 or 1 times with low healing done, which means you were not focused at all and barely even attacked. It is easy to click when you are freecasting and don't have to worry about moving.

In any type of game where you have to kite (read: every competitive game or arena) then your performance will be cut in half or more.

Nice try though.
not to be rude, but no. i actually do take damage, here is my damage taken from one of the SS listed
http://imgur.com/AI11SMg
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cashogy_reborn
09.06.2013 , 06:44 PM | #234
Claims how good he is... posts Screenshots of losing matches.

Seems legit.
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supermouthcml
09.06.2013 , 06:52 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
Claims how good he is... posts Screenshots of losing matches.

Seems legit.
lol allow me to say this one more time, the whole reason for posting these SS was to show that you can still be a viable dps as a clicker, however everyone is looking at the SS and judging them based on my teams performance and my contributions to the team, which is not wrong but it was not my intent. and if you look 3 out of 5 of the SS are infact wins
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chasinginfinity
09.06.2013 , 07:13 PM | #236
Clickimg is actually fine if you know where everything is... i actually keybinded because i was too lazy to keep moving my mouse all over the place, until i discovered i should be running with the mouse. so, I agree turning with the mouse is a must. *cough* something I have yet to master despite a level 50 who leveled as scrapper for a while until I couldn't do it anymore *cough* even for something like snipers...
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Crawelc
09.06.2013 , 07:18 PM | #237
Don't click, alt and ctrl are your friends you don't have to spend 100 bucks on a mouse to make yourself stop clicking. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
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Liryc
09.06.2013 , 09:55 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by cub-lover View Post
ok ok we all know the score but does it REALLY matter in the end how another player chooses to play, i mean some one who clicks instead of key binds, isn't affecting how you play is it?, or if some one is using WASD instead of mouse turning, once again it does not affect how you play, so why is their raging against it or people making snide comments about it?

yes we all know the advantages of key binds and mouse turning, but why belittle some one else for playing how they feel comfortable?

I use a mixture of key binds and clicks, and i rarely ever mouse turn in PVP simply because i'm more comfortable with how i play than how some one wants me to play.

For example i play a scoundrel DPS i know its unthinkable to see a scoundrel NOT healing in PVP, and guess what? I ENJOY being a scoundrel DPS in PVP even if i get face rolled , or lolsmashed what ever i am more comfortable in the Dirty Fighting skill tree than i am in sawbones, just because EVERYONE else say to me please don't sign up for PVP unless your sawbones spec. I just laugh and kindly tell them i play my characters how i want to play them, so don't try to tell me other wise, its not harming your character in any way.

My point is if someone prefers clicking and back peddling let them it's their play style don't try to force your own on them.

FYI: this is NOT a troll thread before anyone starts with the 1/10 crap
are you kidding with this comment?

back peddling and playing a dps when others think you shouldn't is NOOOOO where near the inefficiency of clicking EVERY attack
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Heal-To-Full
09.06.2013 , 10:18 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by supermouthcml View Post
lol allow me to say this one more time, the whole reason for posting these SS was to show that you can still be a viable dps as a clicker
A viable DPS is the one who sits in stealth at home line, pushes out a few sneakers, then does 50k damage - but does it to the ball carrier and passes the ball to an ally who proceeds to score.

There's no excuse for having 0 objective points. Simply contributing to killing a ball carrier will get you some. Simply grabbing the ball and passing it to an ally will.
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09.06.2013 , 10:28 PM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by Gloomycakes View Post
...when I rest my hand on the keyboard I rest the top of my pinkie on tab, other fingers on the number keys, my thumb somewhere between alt and spacebar (top rests on C) and I can press ctrl with my hand where my pinkie more or less starts (1 cm lower) are my hands too small to reach Shift properly or am I doing something horribly wrong? (Everyone seems to use Shift and it just makes me wonder and I'm afraid Ctrl and Alt will give me issues in other games.)
Ctrl and Alt are by and large unnecessary. If you feel more comfortable using them, go ahead.
Personally I prefer everything important on simple binds with a few shift-binds for either:
1) Long cooldowns or secondary abilities - buff, recover, PvE cc. BTW, bind your buff, if anyone in your group spends a minute without your class buff, you're doing it wrong.
2) Abilities only used right after another - for instance Shift-C right after C.

People usually have their pinkie on Shift. Putting it on Tab is pretty unusual.
What I do is bind the side buttons on my mouse to strafe, in addition to WASD, so I can comfortably take my fingers off the strafe buttons when required and still strafe.

Some people prefer to combine Shift, Ctrl and Alt with just a few buttons, ordered by rotation. It's a valid way too, but I personally just don't like playing around with modifier keys, it's harder for me to remember and has too much chance of some external program going off.
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