Keybinds vs clicking

Yes, you don't have to keybind everything.

I use clicky:
* Charges and Cylinders
* Stims
* Offspec Adrenals
* Heroic Moment
* Unity and Sacrifice
* Legacy abilities
* Sprint
* Speeders and toys

As you can see, that's a lot of clicking. Keybinding isn't a religion. It simply works better.

Let me put it this way: if you have keys that you can reach without leaving WASD and they areNn't bound to any ability, you're doing it wrong. Generally it will be everything left of 8,I,K,M for ranged and 6,Y,H,B for melee.

No one is suggesting that it should be the only way to play. But you are constantly attempting to justify bad play tendencies with anecdotal, and "feeling" based arguments. When the fact of the matter is keybinding is better. You yourself even admit that clicking left you limited in your ability to function in certain specs.

Why on earth would you argue that it is "okay" for someone to intentionally gimp themselves to such a degree?

If someone wants to keep clicking, thats fine. But they are either ignorant or bad. No one is forcing playstyles on anyone else, but do not pretend that keybinding does not have an excessive advantage over clicking.



Let me be clear: NO AMOUNT OF CLICKING IS OKAY. For new players that might see this thread, they should know that clicking is inferior. The only abilities you should be clicking are out-of-combat abilities like fast travel or a reusable stim or a pet. There is no scenario where clicking is superior to keybinding. None.

I'm sure you meant to say, "Do not pretend that keybinding has no advantage over clicking."

I admit that it does.

I only said that if you are content being a casual player, the investment required is too much and provides MAYBE a 5% boost to performance.

My secondary point was that it should not be forced on anyone. You all seem o be under the impression that no clicker can compete. You'd be shocked to know what top players on Pot5 click.


Once more..

Class Knowledge > All.

Even Keybinding.

Keybinding is very useful in PvP but in PvE I don't think it is needed at all since you stand on the spot mostly. In PvP it allows for better maneuverability but I like to play all the 8 masterclasses so it is hard to get muscle memory when they all play differently

Situational awareness > (above-basic) class knowledge. Can't have full situational awareness if you click your core skills.

yh you can coz the rotation skills are in a line so you just move you mouse lightly while spamming click during the last skills GCD

For ranged classes, I'll give you that. For melee, it's suicide. For ranged trying to kite melee, it's *farking* inconvenient, unless you just keep strafing in one direction.

And so I ask you this..

A keybinder who never taunts, never properly rotates, never changes to defense stance when the situation calls for it, doesn't know where the rest of his team is in relation to himself, doesn't know the enemy team's position.

All he knows is HIT 1 HIT 4 HIT 3 HIT A F EG W E R T H G C X Z STRAFE STRAFE STUN STUN.


Is that better than a clicker who's taunts are ALWAYS on CD, who sees the enemy thinning out at a node and rotates accordingly, who DOES swap to D stance when needed, who DOES know where his teammates are in relation to himself, and who DOES know exactly where the healer is in relation to the tank and takes appropriate steps to separate them?


I think not. Give me the team-playing, objective oriented, situationally aware clicker.

And so we are back to my assertion:


Class Knowledge (and the knowledge of other classes) > All. Keybinding is secondary to that

You really cannot take one facet of being a good player and compare it to another.

Good players have class knowledge, use keybinds, do not backpedal, know how to communicate/anticipate, and understand WZ tactics and strategy. If youre not proficient at one of those things, youre not a good player; youre mediocre.

So then you agree that a Clicker who possesses all the other traits you listed is greater than a keybinder who doesn't understand strategy or other classes?

I thought as much.


For keybinding to boost you to the levels that every claims, you need to be at least adept at the other areas you listed. If you are not, Keybinding isn't going to help you much.

Even in 1v1. A clicking sniper who knows how to beat a shadow is better than a keybinding shadow who has no idea how to counter a sniper.