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Almost 2 years .. and they still don't listen. Thank you BW and EA ...

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Almost 2 years .. and they still don't listen. Thank you BW and EA ...

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branmakmuffin
09.02.2013 , 09:05 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by LordSkyKnight View Post
Funny how you guys keep dropping this line. Yet so many other aspects of the game copy elements from the movies. Starships, weapons, droids, speeders, shuttles, and now even a new companion which from what people say didn't exist back in that time period.

Wait for it.....

Wait for it.....

Wait for it.....
And apparently if you want your Jedi to look like Obi Wan, you'll have to ...

... wait for it ...

... wait for it ...

... wait for it.

Or just deal with it. Two words: Relnex' robes. He may not look Obi Wan, but he looks like what contemporary Jedi look like because he is a contemporary Jedi.

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Prototypemind
09.02.2013 , 10:07 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by LordSkyKnight View Post
Funny how you guys keep dropping this line. Yet so many other aspects of the game copy elements from the movies. Starships, weapons, droids, speeders, shuttles, and now even a new companion which from what people say didn't exist back in that time period.

Wait for it.....

Wait for it.....

Wait for it.....


Here it is......

Well, Hoth wasn't even Hoth during this time period, so it is what it is =p

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Undeadcenturion
09.02.2013 , 11:25 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsillah View Post
There fixed it for ya.

There's a lot of odd gear out there but it's gotten a lot better also. I am not so sure you represent a majority of people here. You've got to realise that your appeal to "game developer doesn't listen" is just a bit silly. They have listened and changed a lot of things, but as in life, you can't always get what you want....or the way you want it.

Could they do more? Sure but to say they don't listen at all is just not a fair assessment. Your title thread is misleading therefore. It's not about EA/BW not listening for two years but you not being happy with your wardrobe choices. That's not the same thing. I am sure they have heard you....doesn't mean you are gonna get what you want and how yo want it now or ever. It sucks sometimes but that's life.
You're absolutely right. I'm the only one or only one of the very few that complain about the Jedi specific armor. They don't have countless threads on this subject matter. *crickets* Hell they even jacked up the Jolee set. Boots and pants to that set are hideous. The Tunic itself is a pinkish peach atrocity. Now given .. I think shape and texture wise the Jolee tunic is fantastic. But guess what? Nope, sure as hell can't dye it. If EA is willing to give us half *** garbage that doesn't even really resemble the models they were made from .. at least let us dye them. I'm probably alone in that matter too.
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Sentinel-Jordal
09.02.2013 , 01:08 PM | #54
Hey OP don't be mad yes most of the jedi armours looks like crap but hey
at least we have options now.
The jedi knights don't have to run around with a potato sack over their head anymore:

http://www.trippintheforce.com/wp-co...-2-625x354.jpg

And whe you think that the devolpers FINALLY had learned that a jedi wants to look like a JEDI
and NOTHING they could come up with could beat the "potato sack robe" in uglienes this happened:

http://dulfy.net/2013/08/29/swtor-po...new-pve-armor/

As a female jedi sentinel i cry
NO BW/EA it's NOT Fun to spend millions of my hard earned credits (had to kill a lot of siths scums to get them. Because get a mission to kill someone, steal their loot and then get paid for the killing is the jedi way right? )
to move mods from this CRAP to my nice jedi robe!!!
Just my two cents...
Jadele, Battlemaster, jedi sentinel lvl 65
Andrliel, The hidden jedi, jedi shadow lvl 65
Sazill, Master of Lightning, sith sorcerer lv 65
Sidiani, The Destroyer, sith warrior lv 65

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BrianDavion
09.02.2013 , 01:45 PM | #55
IMHO relnex's robes are the best we're going to get. BW eaither can't, or does not want to, design big billowing sleeves (I tend to agree they'd be a clipping nightmare and proably not look right anyway)

BW has given us a reasonable amount of jedi robes. not exact to the movies, but even if you look at the movies you'd see a fair bit of varity in the robes as well s changes. notice that in the IT jedi all wore the long skirts?

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Spamfritter
09.02.2013 , 03:02 PM | #56
I hate quoting myself, but it seems to fit:
Quote: Originally Posted by Spamfritter View Post
BioWare seems to think we desire new gear more often than we do. They also have gotten lazier and lazier about it's creation and design.

At launch each class had a certain gear model for both PvP and PvE gear. The textures were actually different for each subclass. The Marauder's vs. Juggernaut Centurion / Battlemaster gear is a great example of this. They used the same models but the textures were substantially different for each subclass. Helmets were totally different for each subclass: Here are some examples:

1.) Bull horn head vs. Dunce cap of doom.
2.) Snail head of the Rakata Juggernaut vs. the Terminator skull for the Marauder.

From the introduction of the Dread Guard armors things already got lazy. We had different sets for PvE and PvP but there were no more differences between subclasses. So the only thing that differentiated the Juggernaut from the Marauder was color. Back then we couldn't dye the armors so that was the differentiating factor in our appearances. But the War Hero armor looked nothing like the Dread Guard armors.

The last couple of sets were the laziest yet. Essentially Partisan / Arkanian armor shared models as did the Conqueror and Underworld Gear. So we got two new models where as PvE and PvP armors shared appearances between tiers. Now we got new armors for each tier (69 vs. 72, 63, vs. 65) but PvE and PvP sets looked the same aside from color.

Kell Dragon was worse. They just added some really stupid glowing / lighting effects to the hideous existing models. Color schemes were even worse. (Brighter red vs. a burgundy on the Warrior armor for example.) Firebrand gear shells were pretty much the same and actually had no value. I've never even seen those shells in use on a PvE server as ranked PvP is non-existent on the Harbinger.

So in 2.4 we get horrendous World of Warcraft looking armor sets that essentially look more or less the same for all classes and factions with minor differences separating them. PvE and PvP sets will likely look identical.

The point is BioWare is getting worse and WORSE with their end game armors. Even when they do strike gold with a set they still stop just short of making it great. The Dread Guard Sith Warrior set looked good with the exception of the helmets. The Verpine / Underworld Agent jacket was fantastic but the pants look like spandex on male toons. I could go on and on but essentially BioWare seems to have the best design talent working on the Cartel Market stuff and the same horrible designers working on end game armors we aren't paying anything additional for.

What goes beyond comprehension is the fact that customers / players of this game have *****ed about the non-Star Wars (not even good by any standard) looking end game gear from the days of the very first level 50 characters and nearly two years later BioWare has done NOTHING to improve the situation. Each new tier of gear is cosmetic FAIL time and time again. BioWare gives us everything EXCEPT what we've ASKED for.

I'm not saying that all the gear need look precisely as the stuff in the movies do, but it should carry the same feel while retaining a period look which binds it to this time period in Star Wars history. The KOTOR games already showed us that Jedi and Sith have more or less worn the same style equipment for thousands of years as monks in our world have done the same for centuries. Why is it so hard for people at BioWare to grasp this concept?

More to this point, they've failed to achieve the desired results outside of the Cartel Market for any class. I can make a bounty hunter look like Boba-Fett or Cad Bane to some extent. What I can't do is make anyone look vaguely like Darth Maul or the Emperor, or even Star Killer which is what I should be able to do. The Eradicator and Valiant Jedi Armors are great examples of how gear should be designed. It's clearly a different period of gear than what you saw in the movies but it still screams "Jedi" or "Sith". The problem is that I don't want all 6 or 7 of my force using characters to look exactly the same because there are only one or two armors that look right in the game.

This underwater zombie welder pretty much says it all when it comes to BioWare's end game gear design. They don't have a *********** clue what they are doing and what their source material is all about, nor how to replicate the look and feel of the universe while still being unique.

http://i.imgur.com/2DVyKrr.jpg
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Glumish
09.02.2013 , 07:55 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Undeadcenturion View Post
You Good Sir, obviously haven't read the previous posts I've made referring to the above mentioned. Don't be lazy and make some half witted comment without looking first .. just saying.
How about you don't make an ignorant post like you just did in response to me. You know we were talking about the color crystals, my post was about you talking about the color crystals. What I quoted FROM your post was about color crystals.

I have read the previous posts you made in this thread. If you want me to look outside of this thread, then please do provide me a damn link before you act like P.O.S. know-it-all with an attitude.

You said red, blue, and green crystals are the only canonical crystals in Star Wars, I argued that George Lucas created the Clone Wars series, episodes 1-3, and worked heavily on other assets in the Star Wars franchise that say otherwise. What the Hell are -you- talking about? I have read your previous posts in this thread, nothing you said suggests otherwise.

Arrogant. You were talking about the crystals, I was talking about the crystals in response to you. Don't change the damn subject to make yourself appear smarter than you really are.

I can't wait for your next egotistical response to me that has nothing to do with what I said. Perhaps you're the lazy one.
Quote: Originally Posted by jedip_enguin View Post
However, the fanboys in here are already so excited if they fart they will jump to lightspeed themselves, so if I may I offer some sage words of advice...

Check your expectations.

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LordArtemis
09.02.2013 , 08:10 PM | #58
I am surprised at the fire back and forth....I wonder if it has anything to do with the OPs confrontational attitude at the beginning of the thread.

This isn't really something to argue over IMO. The OP desires a certain look for Jedi to be added to the game, and that request like any other is fine.

I am of the opinion that the look for Jedi has good options now considering limitations with current armor models. But I can see some room for improvement.

I do think that presenting requests with attitude will end up getting nothing, so I fail to understand what the OP is trying to accomplish, unless it is simply to vent.

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Glumish
09.02.2013 , 08:20 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
I am surprised at the fire back and forth....I wonder if it has anything to do with the OPs confrontational attitude at the beginning of the thread.
He's been confrontational into the later pages of the thread as well, going as far as to ignore people and post random babbling to make himself appear superior to others. Don't know who he's trying to impress.
Quote: Originally Posted by jedip_enguin View Post
However, the fanboys in here are already so excited if they fart they will jump to lightspeed themselves, so if I may I offer some sage words of advice...

Check your expectations.

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Undeadcenturion
09.02.2013 , 10:55 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Glumish View Post
How about you don't make an ignorant post like you just did in response to me. You know we were talking about the color crystals, my post was about you talking about the color crystals. What I quoted FROM your post was about color crystals.

I have read the previous posts you made in this thread. If you want me to look outside of this thread, then please do provide me a damn link before you act like P.O.S. know-it-all with an attitude.

You said red, blue, and green crystals are the only canonical crystals in Star Wars, I argued that George Lucas created the Clone Wars series, episodes 1-3, and worked heavily on other assets in the Star Wars franchise that say otherwise. What the Hell are -you- talking about? I have read your previous posts in this thread, nothing you said suggests otherwise.

Arrogant. You were talking about the crystals, I was talking about the crystals in response to you. Don't change the damn subject to make yourself appear smarter than you really are.

I can't wait for your next egotistical response to me that has nothing to do with what I said. Perhaps you're the lazy one.
Ok .. lets talk about what I said about crystals. I specifically stated the black core with the multiple color schemes that come with them looking like nerf bats. IMO they are horrid and look nothing like a traditional lightsaber crystal. I even said as much in the quote you copied.

And I only get confrontational when those like yourself or one other in particular make statements telling me it is Canon .. or the armor in the game is fine ... or that the armor in the game is supposed to look completely different then in Ep 1-6 because of the time frame .. although for Jedi .. It's been stated time and time again that they have basically worn the same attire for thousands of years.

You like the armor in this game? Good. I am genuinely happy that you do. But I, along with others are simply not happy with our options for the Jedi class.
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