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A positive thread.


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MrGoldsilver
08.31.2013 , 12:25 PM | #1
I want to thank you, bioware, for making a great game. Complainer are going to complain no matter what you do, but at the very least you made a game I can't live without (I'm a person who does nothing but wait, or play EAW while updating).

To complainers: if you don't like the game, go play something else, no ones forcing you to play this. I'm sure Bioware does what it does for a reason, even if it is money. Love the game, but hate the CM? Don't buy stuff from it... Certain class OP? Let other people hate... Play the class you love, learn how to counter FOTM classes, and feel proud when you can kill them with your skill. (And then own everything when your class becomes FOTM )

-Thank you for reading this, trolls and haters, you are free to go back to troll'in and hate'in.
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Drudenfusz
08.31.2013 , 12:36 PM | #2
Your logic is flawed!

First I complain often about things I hope BioWare change, and some tmes they had listen to the community (the stupid name the sages once had or the restrictions on colour crystals regarding light and darkside got dropped).

I think it is just normal and very healthy to point out what should be changed, that is what people do when they like something. Not blind love, but help to improve things. Which is in my opinion far better than saying nothing (because saying nothing is pretty much the same as leaving without telling why).

Sure, some of the complains could be a little more friendly, but that doesn't mean people don't like the game. They spend time there and here on the forums to improve the game. For me that is much more worth than blind love or stupit threads about how perfect everything is (but maybe that's just me, I don't beloeve perfection can ever be achieved, but should always aimed for).
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ShatteredVision
08.31.2013 , 01:07 PM | #3
The ironic thing being, your blind love for the game ultimately hurts it, OP. The people complaining obviously like the game, why else would they stick around? No one pays a monthly sub exclusively to troll forums. People who REALLY like the game, see the potential and aren't afraid to make attempts toward improving it as it goes. Fanbois like you, on the other hand, do nothing but praise the game, despite massive flaws - essentially offering nothing to the community, aside from muddying the waters. Devs shouldn't think they're doing a great job, because they're not. They're doing a mediocre job, and many of the quality changes that have come to this game are exclusively due to people raising these issues themselves, until it becomes far too hard to ignore.

Sorry, but your blind dedication does nothing but hurt the game.
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Knorlac
08.31.2013 , 01:15 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Drudenfusz View Post
Your logic is flawed!

First I complain often about things I hope BioWare change, and some tmes they had listen to the community (the stupid name the sages once had or the restrictions on colour crystals regarding light and darkside got dropped).

I think it is just normal and very healthy to point out what should be changed, that is what people do when they like something. Not blind love, but help to improve things. Which is in my opinion far better than saying nothing (because saying nothing is pretty much the same as leaving without telling why).

Sure, some of the complains could be a little more friendly, but that doesn't mean people don't like the game. They spend time there and here on the forums to improve the game. For me that is much more worth than blind love or stupit threads about how perfect everything is (but maybe that's just me, I don't beloeve perfection can ever be achieved, but should always aimed for).
Agreed.
I wouldn't dream of complaining about a game that I was not invested in or just plain didn't enjoy. I'd just leave and not look back.
Yes, some of the criticism is not very constructive, but even those posts can help to tell BW if a given feature is broadly disliked.
I agree with OP though that BW probably deserves a positive thread once in a while
But blind acceptance of things that could clearly be improved upon is not the way to go if we want the game we love to get even better in time.

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Klarick
08.31.2013 , 01:47 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by ShatteredVision View Post
The ironic thing being, your blind love for the game ultimately hurts it, OP. The people complaining obviously like the game, why else would they stick around? No one pays a monthly sub exclusively to troll forums. People who REALLY like the game, see the potential and aren't afraid to make attempts toward improving it as it goes. Fanbois like you, on the other hand, do nothing but praise the game, despite massive flaws - essentially offering nothing to the community, aside from muddying the waters. Devs shouldn't think they're doing a great job, because they're not. They're doing a mediocre job, and many of the quality changes that have come to this game are exclusively due to people raising these issues themselves, until it becomes far too hard to ignore.

Sorry, but your blind dedication does nothing but hurt the game.
So much this ^. The forum white knight, and swtor has only one, for the most part, does nothing to add to the development of the game. Pretty much all major changes to this game was sparked by criticism on these forums. Just like any business, a bunch of yes-men, or yes-women is a detriment to progress.
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oaceen
08.31.2013 , 02:00 PM | #6
being positive about the game doesn't inherently mean that it's detrimental.
just like complaining about the game doesn't inherently mean that it's done with 'good intentions' to improve swtor.


creating a 'positive' thread and then being negative to people who complain is rather ironic though.
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Andryah
08.31.2013 , 02:59 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by MrGoldsilver View Post
I want to thank you, bioware, for making a great game. Complainer are going to complain no matter what you do, but at the very least you made a game I can't live without (I'm a person who does nothing but wait, or play EAW while updating).

To complainers: if you don't like the game, go play something else, no ones forcing you to play this. I'm sure Bioware does what it does for a reason, even if it is money. Love the game, but hate the CM? Don't buy stuff from it... Certain class OP? Let other people hate... Play the class you love, learn how to counter FOTM classes, and feel proud when you can kill them with your skill. (And then own everything when your class becomes FOTM )

-Thank you for reading this, trolls and haters, you are free to go back to troll'in and hate'in.
You broke the first rule for a positive thread...... you complained and attacked others, even if only indirectly.

You are now catnip for some forum members however.
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LordArtemis
08.31.2013 , 03:13 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by MrGoldsilver View Post
I want to thank you, bioware, for making a great game. Complainer are going to complain no matter what you do, but at the very least you made a game I can't live without (I'm a person who does nothing but wait, or play EAW while updating).

To complainers: if you don't like the game, go play something else, no ones forcing you to play this. I'm sure Bioware does what it does for a reason, even if it is money. Love the game, but hate the CM? Don't buy stuff from it... Certain class OP? Let other people hate... Play the class you love, learn how to counter FOTM classes, and feel proud when you can kill them with your skill. (And then own everything when your class becomes FOTM )

-Thank you for reading this, trolls and haters, you are free to go back to troll'in and hate'in.
A positive post does not complain about complainers.

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MrGoldsilver
09.01.2013 , 02:10 AM | #9
Wow all the hate

Anyway, I'm not saying that I have blind loyalty to the game (I pvp a lot, yes I'm annoyed at the current state), but at least we have this game, is what I'm trying to say.

Oh and being ironic is what I do best
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LordArtemis
09.01.2013 , 04:58 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by MrGoldsilver View Post
Wow all the hate

Anyway, I'm not saying that I have blind loyalty to the game (I pvp a lot, yes I'm annoyed at the current state), but at least we have this game, is what I'm trying to say.

Oh and being ironic is what I do best
I think you could have tried harder by actually providing a positive thread.