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Vanguard // Powertechs Top 3 Answers!

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Vanguard // Powertechs Top 3 Answers!
 
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OldSpiceSwag
08.23.2013 , 10:46 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by that_Spartan_IV View Post
HAHAHAHAHA. No.
trolled2hard

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JRTX
08.23.2013 , 11:05 PM | #82
they really need to nerf imperial classes especially the successors they are not equal to sages

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cashogy_reborn
08.23.2013 , 11:05 PM | #83
These responses are terrible.

Every responses is basically "l2p, we gave you more burst in 2.4"

da fk?
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Iolus
08.23.2013 , 11:06 PM | #84
"In short, this is a perception problem, and it is one that you admit didnít exist when Assault Specialist dealt more damage. When Assault Specialist damage goes up, will this perception issue go away?"

What this says is...." Hey derp, when your damage was better or on par with marauders and snipers you weren't complaining about utility."

Bioware the amount of favoritism to certain classes is beyond belief. Your responses were an insult to an entire community. You sat there on videos saying there wouldn't be a hybrid tax yet you tell sorcs that they should learn to LOS and heal up. You tell us Vanguards that our "ranged attacks" are the envy of guardian and shadow tanks??? Are you serious? I have 4 lvl 55s (Assault Vanguard, Focus Guardian, Infiltration Shadow, Scoundrel Healer) and in the process of lvling the rest of the ACs on the imp side. I would love it if all AC were viable instead of having to stick to classes you deem are worthy of your attention.

You insulted us and our ability to play this game. I challenge you the DEVS to LOG IN and play arenas with the classes you just said needed to L2P. Please we'll be waiting for you on the PTS. But we all know you won't. You've lost another customer. You guys honestly need to get fired because you honestly don't even understand your own game. Its all about making money in the end and I rather you follow the whims of your customers instead of giving us those responses that all in all were just insults.
"NEVER FEAR IOLUS IS HERE, PERCEPTION PROBLEM FIXED"

Iolus, Elite Vanguard Deeps, Tank, etc

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cashogy_reborn
08.23.2013 , 11:08 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Iolus View Post
"In short, this is a perception problem, and it is one that you admit didnít exist when Assault Specialist dealt more damage. When Assault Specialist damage goes up, will this perception issue go away?"

What this says is...." Hey derp, when your damage was better or on par with marauders and snipers you weren't complaining about utility."

Bioware the amount of favoritism to certain classes is beyond belief. Your responses were an insult to an entire community. You sat there on videos saying there wouldn't be a hybrid tax yet you tell sorcs that they should learn to LOS and heal up. You tell us Vanguards that our "ranged attacks" are the envy of guardian and shadow tanks??? Are you serious? I have 4 lvl 55s (Assault Vanguard, Focus Guardian, Infiltration Shadow, Scoundrel Healer) and in the process of lvling the rest of the ACs on the imp side. I would love it if all AC were viable instead of having to stick to classes you deem are worthy of your attention.

You insulted us and our ability to play this game. I challenge you the DEVS to LOG IN and play arenas with the classes you just said needed to L2P. Please we'll be waiting for you on the PTS. But we all know you won't. You've lost another customer. You guys honestly need to get fired because you honestly don't even understand your own game. Its all about making money in the end and I rather you follow the whims of your customers instead of giving us those responses that all in all were just insults.
They did. And they got stomped from the few videos I saw. Lots of backpedaling and other such noobish activity took place.

These questions are a gimmick, the make it appear that the devs are engaging in discussion with the community. This is just a way for them to either tell us we are wrong, or to leak tid-bits of info about future changes.
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Iolus
08.23.2013 , 11:09 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by nightkin View Post
i agree with you fully, the perception of an entire community of players and the perception of a couple of people (the developers) who think they got it right while (again) the entire playerbase disagrees with you.thats the perception problem. You just told the entire sorc/sage and vanguard/powertech community to l2p. The pt rep even quit his role as a rep because he knew you would misshandle this mess so grossly!

For any serious pvp always bring smashers for dps and jugs for tanks and operatives for healing, nothing else cuts it for top level play cause those classes are the best at every single role that exists in pvp.

Other classes are "viable" but not optimal wich means that every player who wants to play and succeed in pvp is limited to the top performing classes.

Pt tank works and can at times shine a little bit but in the end, not worth it for 4vs4, 8vs8 or whatever, since jugs always outperform them.

Stuff like this is so painfully obvious to us, the players and yet it seems to elude the people who handle game balance.

When was the last time you saw a merc/commando healer in serious top level pvp? thats right, you dont!
when was the last time anyone picked a shadow as a main dpser for pve or pvp? thats right, you dont!
when was the last time anyone picked sorc/sage/operative dps for top ranked pvp? thats right, you dont!

you want me to go on? I keep on trucking all night long cause thats how many flaws you have in the game currently.

Why does mara/sentinel have the best burst dps, the best sustained dps, the best cooldowns and execute (wich dont show on the parses cause the little doll dont ever go to 30% health, your own words bw!)

we have a few classes outperforming all the other classes and you refuse to do anything about it and we, the community, cannot comprehend why.

Because quite frankly, you dont have the guts to answer this wall of text.
^ this
"NEVER FEAR IOLUS IS HERE, PERCEPTION PROBLEM FIXED"

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Tarackian
08.23.2013 , 11:10 PM | #87
Out of all of the "Top 3 Answers" posted so far, this is the worst. I mean, these answers are insulting and, in one case, flat wrong.

Vanguards are not the only spec in the game with talents for higher damage below 30% health, and they parse lower than other specs with similar talents.

And the 30m range issue is, well, as other have pointed out, a bit silly. That is meaningless. Utterly meaningless.

I don't get it. The "Top 3 Answers" for the Sentinel and Gunslinger were very good, but you totally **** the bed on this one. Is there a different person handling questions for different classes?

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Iolus
08.23.2013 , 11:16 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
They did. And they got stomped from the few videos I saw. Lots of backpedaling and other such noobish activity took place.

These questions are a gimmick, the make it appear that the devs are engaging in discussion with the community. This is just a way for them to either tell us we are wrong, or to leak tid-bits of info about future changes.
I have played many MMOs were they've had class reps and "community discussions" and this is the first time EVER I've seen such arrogance from the DEVS. They sit here and basically tell us we are wrong and they got it right. Why has EA fired them already?
"NEVER FEAR IOLUS IS HERE, PERCEPTION PROBLEM FIXED"

Iolus, Elite Vanguard Deeps, Tank, etc

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Hxxr
08.23.2013 , 11:46 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Tarackian View Post
I don't get it. The "Top 3 Answers" for the Sentinel and Gunslinger were very good, but you totally **** the bed on this one. Is there a different person handling questions for different classes?
The difference is simple: the other two classes have 3 fully functioning skill trees that already outperform everything else in their own niche.
Quote: Originally Posted by Rtwozero View Post
Just remember that combat logs only state mathamatical facts. They are not rude or arrogant.

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cashogy_reborn
08.23.2013 , 11:52 PM | #90
Also, if I see a dev use Burnout as an example of a good ability ONE MORE TIME, IM GOING TO PUT THE DEVS IN FIRE.

The DoT damage we can deliver is PITIFUL. Its even pitiful when multiplied 30%. Any of our DoTs will not crit for much more than 1-1.2k. ZOMG AN EXTRA 300-400 damage!!! THAT TOTALLY MAKES UP FOR ALL THE OTHER SHORTCOMINGS!





Dear Devs: YOU ARE DUMB. Sincerely, Commando Class Rep.
Dany - Attomm - Dan'y - Fogel
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