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I dont see balance, is it there magically at 50?

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I dont see balance, is it there magically at 50?

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Moofster
12.21.2011 , 02:20 PM | #1
Must say PvP as a melee is beginning to annoy me and I am wondering if this game was worth buying.

If I am not stunned, slowed or knocked away which is an amazing feat itself since I basically have nothing to counter these with or no real working CC myself....
Then I am hacking away at an absorb bubble with my pathetic damage or just have a CASTER PARRY my main abilities FROM BEHIND. < this angered me the most

I dont see the balance at low levels, every game I have been in has Warriors (50k) do about 1/4th of the damage of ranged classes (200k+ range)

I even see level 50 warriors doing less damage than level 10 inquisitors/bounty hunters. Which honestly is freaking me out (yes I know low levels get boosted stats). Its hard to believe someone that leveled 50 so fast is just that bad a player.......



Can some level 50 warriors that PvP'd along the way tell me if they have the same experiences or at which level comes a turning point that does not make me want to delete this character?

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Jeffor
12.21.2011 , 02:22 PM | #2
Yes once you turn 50 George Lucas appears, twinkles his nose, declares you balanced and then disappears up the chimney. Please read the manual.
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Viera
12.21.2011 , 02:23 PM | #3
Of course low-level PVP isn't balanced.

You see level 50 warriors? What were they? Juggernauts? Marauders? Were they people who didn't take an advanced class?

Casters do big damage, not much to say about that besides that. Sniper is glass-cannon.

Low level PVP sucks because you don't have alot into your spec and you don't have all of your abilities.

For instance you complain about CC when every class gets an ability to break CC at a certain level, cant remember which.
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Rheeling
12.21.2011 , 02:26 PM | #4
Well I rarely see healers other than myself when I'm in a warzone, so I'm guessing there aren't a whole lot of them out there. Part of the problem might be that, as a melee, you're going to be the first target players see, so you get focus fired and CC'ed the most. And if you don't have anyone healing you, you're just going to get burned to the ground.

The inquisitors can usually pump out a decent amount of damage before people realize they're there. Find a healer to join with and I think your warzone experience will improve a lot
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MaverickXIV
12.21.2011 , 02:26 PM | #5
I PvP on an Immortal Juggernaut and I don't have trouble.

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EternalFinality
12.21.2011 , 02:28 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeffor View Post
Yes once you turn 50 George Lucas appears, twinkles his nose, declares you balanced and then disappears up the chimney. Please read the manual.
Hmmm...for me he kicked me in the crotch and made a rude gesture. Maybe a bug?

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Trevock
12.21.2011 , 02:29 PM | #7
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Yes once you turn 50 George Lucas appears, twinkles his nose, declares you balanced and then disappears up the chimney. Please read the manual.
Troll elsewhere. Srs.

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_Foy
12.21.2011 , 02:29 PM | #8
I hear Knights/Warriors get most of their stuns/etc at higher levels. Maybe you'll just have to keep leveling and see how it pans out?

Remember: Play a class that you like to play, not because it's the FotM. Balance will come to the force.
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Varcan
12.21.2011 , 02:39 PM | #9
1) The JK/SW aren't going to top dmg more than likely, even at 50.

2) You do get a few(I think enough) ways to break stuns/snares as you lvl depending on spec.

3) I am starting to think that generally speaking JK/SW have a large grp of MMO newbs playing them, and their inexperience shows horribly when they continue to queqe up for warzones. Because there are a rare few that defy the rule.

A lot of players don't understand the idea of over extension in PvP. If you do this as a melee you're a goner, and will spend most of your time rezzing...

Secondly, every JK/SW I see jump into the enemy lines with force leap makes me cringe a little on the inside. Just another newb... You really want save this as any half-wit player will use a knockback/stun as soon as you jump them, now what are you going to do for the next 15secs other than take a dirt nap as they focus fire you.

However, it is admittedly hard to not over extend in PUGs when the people you thought were backing you up stand and watch. Though sometimes they're right to do this if you are the moron who just force leaped into a whole horde of them... Basically, let the range casters fire the first blow before you commit to a fight is the best suggestion.

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Moofster
12.21.2011 , 02:49 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by _Foy View Post
I hear Knights/Warriors get most of their stuns/etc at higher levels. Maybe you'll just have to keep leveling and see how it pans out?

Remember: Play a class that you like to play, not because it's the FotM. Balance will come to the force.

Yeah I am experienced with warriors and know that usually they are late bloomers.
However in other MMO's they always were at least a bit playable if you know how to LoS, Kite and position yourself.

But this warrior class has absolutely nothing while my GF playing inquisitor is just spamming her damage skills with at least 2 forms of control at level 10.


I dont see how warriors have the tools to do anything versus the CC train at any level and they seem to be a horrible PvP experience if ur not at max level and I really like the warrior but dont feel like doing PvE till 50.